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Nice design. In wood I would use a 90 or 115 tops.
It really looks nice! Good job!
Is the planking you used 1/8 inch thickness? If so where do you find it?
I will send pics of the boat I just finished, here in Idaho.
Randolph Wilke
I really like the design! I am torn between the Mackinaw or the Chinook. I would really like to stretch it out to about 32′.
Could you please post some information about the holding jig?
Retired, armed ,looking to keep in shape ,no longer ,working,did a hobby to enjoy,my life ,live by lake need to build a boat …
beautiful job what length is the boat and what is the beam .. amazing job i always wanted to build a boat like that. what is the name of the plans
Thank You! I used the “Sea Knight” plans for the hull, the rest has been made up by myself 😅. extended the hull by 5%. Total length is about 5,5 meter with a beam of 2,14 meter.
I truly enjoyed watching your progress so far. It looks like your are doing an awesome job and the finished boat will be something to be proud of for years.
Thank you, much appreciated!
Hi Drew!
Thanks for reaching out! I love this boat, just a really nice boat for my charter-boat work where the boat has to be sturdy and tough for ocean/bay conditions, but still able to get into skinny water places. If you are so inclined, please checkout more photos of the boat at my website, kotzebuesoundwild.com. I hope that you have a great summer!
Doug
Can you add me to your mailing list?
Awesome work!. I just purchased what I believe to be a Glen-L “Hunky” or “chunky” Dory. It is 21 ft with a cuddy cabin. It is quite comfortable. We use it for PWS, Kachemak bay, Res. bay. Have you had your out in the ocean or in some nasty weather? If so, how’d it do?
Keith, I think you’re right – I’ve heard this before and makes sense!
I’m wondering what to do with a ferrocement sailboat these days – are there enthusiasts that would be interested?
Hello, …. Curious re complete boat kits for other designs other than Zip? Looking at inboard design 15-17 ft. Just rec’d your catalog, …. Thx for your comments.
I am interested in the prefab kit and the supplies to put it together. Can you itemize the cost and we will arrange the payment and shipping for the Zip Kit 14..
Beautiful boat. What engine did you use?
Paul, your boat looks great. I’ve been wanting to build a boat for a very long time, but am concerned about the cost. Including plans, supplies, and motor, how much was all this?
Beautiful work!!
I’m taking over my friend’s Malahini build, and have to go get it in Washington. I’m buying a new trailer for it, so, how much does your boat weigh when all finished?
Thanks!
Bob Johnson
Vacaville, Ca
I built one of these, great plans. Works well
Ihave one to bet still i have to build him . I can see pretty job
te boat have som nice lines.
Bet i want to know hou fast it go let se 140 hp max speed and i like to see i vidio
i like to see how se go”s
Hi Adriaan
I just found your blog, good Job. You are comeing along nicelly.
I also looked at the spacing of my garage door. It was 8 ft and my middle frame was
8 ft 3′ ! So I checked the next two frame’s and they were 8 ft sooo i made three frames at 8 ft. Looking at the hull as built no one can tell that i changed that middle frame.
I still had to remove the door jam and trim them grind a notch in the block to get the boat out.
My build is the Goliath
Thank you Ed, thats a bold decision to modify the frames, great that it worked out for you! I however am not that courages and will cut out the door frame for the final “loadout”, luckily plenty of time left for me to get used and get comfortable with the plan.
Adriann, Congratulations! You are inspiring! Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Hi Glenn, thats awesome thank you!
If you are still out there, thank you for all the pictures, It really helped a 74 year old man complete my 16′ drift boat of the same design!
Hi Adriaan,
Looks really nice. For a few weeks now, the plans that my girlfriend and I had to build a boat are getting more serious. Our eyes fell on the Phantom (which is a bit bigger).
Where are you located in the Netherlands? Maybe you can give me a few places where to buy materials 🙂
Hi Jeroen,
I’m situated in Zeeland, but order my stuff from all over the Netherlands. but yes I could give you a few pointer for sure. but lot’s of this is also new for me as this is my first boat build!
Looks nice. Look forward to more updates.
Thank you, good to hear!
I built this same boat. Added a 60 hp long shaft and it went 52 mph
What a great design
Looks awesome congrats
Thank you!
A very informative and an enjoyable read! Interesting to become aware of how the designs are linked to the engine capacities at the time. Thanks!
Looks like you are doing a great job.
Thank you sir!
Why are scuppers set up in pairs on a sailboat? It seems that when the boat heals the drain could be quite close to the waterline and no matter where the scuppers feed (is crossed hoses or uncrossed hoses) the leeward scupper will have no draining capability but will also be where all the water accumulates. So the water will always accumulate at the non functional drain. Why not have a single drain at the centerline that drains very low?
I built the Fancy Free sailboat almost 25 years ago and she’s still going strong on Narragansett Bay, RI.
I have never found an insurance co. that will cover a home made built boat. Does anyone know of an insurer that writes policies for wooden boats?
Brilliant way of describing boat plans.
Joe , Nice build . I currently building a zip . I am considering helms seat like you . Wha
Joe , Nice build . I currently building a zip . I am considering helms seat like you. What seat manufacture and source
Thanks
Thanks and best of luck to you! I used Tempress NaviStyle Highbacks in white. I purchased directly from Tempress. You’ll need some very low mounts. The Zip is tight!
I have been building my Squirt since mid December. Recently I have been describing the build on my Facebook page with weekly installments and it has been well received by many of my friends, several of whom couldn’t conceive of building a boat themselves. With the exception of a lot of sanding I am having a great time seeing my little project starting to look more and more like a boat.
Hi: Again if you send me a email address will send pictures of the various boats built from your plans. I cureently have several old cataloge of your plans would it be possible to get the latest. Secondly as mentioned in previous comments very interested in building the Glen L 134 ft Kit boat and apprciated the price and delivery
Best Regards Kester 1 613 799 9495. Ottawa Canada
Hi: Have built sveral Glen boats from your plans going back to 50s 8 ft 3 point hydro, 10 ft tunnel, 11ft TNT, 16 ft rampage from your plans. Now 82 years old and would like to build14 ft zip kit boat can you please send me the info, and pricing for such a kit.
Very Nice! I am not too far away in Durham. I am getting a zip kit soon but have a question about the motor. Are you happy with it? Would you get the same one again and is it loud?
Yes, quite happy. I built the transom for a short shaft and wanted a brand new motor for once. With remote steering and controls, it’s hard to buy new if you want to install it yourself – seems there may be some kind of liability fears. But I was eventually able to. It went on nicely. I would caution you to make a wide motor well in order to be able to attach the steering! This motor is 4-stroke and very quiet and uses very little fuel. 25hp is plenty for me. It runs about 27mph full bore. If you want to ski, you would need more. If you get to a point where you want to see my boat to help in your build process we can work that out! Best of luck!
My uncle has just started on a Hunky Dory project. He’s picked up the wood and got the first seven frames done, but is now stuck at the next stage. Each of the next few pieces needs to be a different size but the plans don’t seem to specify the sizes. He’s looking at a 22′ length for the boat, if that helps. Can you offer any info about these pieces, or direct us to a resource that might help?
Thanks!
Hi,
Apologies for a delayed response. The best two places to get detailed feedback are our Forum and the Facebook group.
Anika
Hi Don,
We have communicated several times in the past. I’m building a Riviera as per the Glen L design. I’m now at the stage of installing the rudder assembly provided by Glen L. I asked Gayle how one attaches the metal brace which straddles the stringers which they call a “post bracket” through which the rudder pole goes through. And how are the 2 L shaped metal pieces used in the assembly. Unfortunately, Gayle mentioned she didn’t know and would get back to me, but I haven’t hear from her.
Could I trouble you to let me know whether you just drilled holes though the post bracket and then screwed it to the stringers or whether there is another way of fixing them.
Look forward to hearing from you
All the best,
Peter Cooper
Peter, I apologize for the delay in responding. The angle brackets for the Rudder Post Bracket attach to the sides of the motor stringers and then the bracket attaches to the angles.
In the words of David Copperfield, … “More please.”
Dan, this is an incredible build!
I’ve been scratching my head on how to tackle the azimuth controls on my (much smaller scale) 9′ tractor tug, and I’m curious if 1). You’ve found affordable slip rings for the motors, and 2). If you plan to utilize a closed-loop azimuth control system (arduino perhaps) like the “real deal” or if you’re going to approach azimuth control in some other manner?
Donald, thnx for this third post. Your detailled photos are of great help for me.
Thank you. I need to update the post as I have made more progress. Don
Bob,
I am thinking about building a 22’ Biscayne. How much should I budge for the build?
Thanks,
Scott
Nice summary.
Hi Don,
I am most impressed with your craftmanship. I am about 6 months behind you in my build (that you are showing above – May, 2019). I’m hoping that you will be showing the rest of your build out soon – is this possible?
Bob, great inspiration. I run a nonprofit for disabled veterans out of Savannah GA and we are preparing to build a flats boat for inshore fishing. This will be our first build and we are encouraging veterans with all types of disabilities to participate. I love how your’s turned out. Great job!
Hello John, Thank you again. Your thoughts are invaluable.
Cheers,
John
Hello again Jeff,
I wonder if you can remember how you went about lengthening your Celerity to 16ft.
The instructions on the web site say that one can lengthen the frame spacing aft of frame 3 “a proportional amount.” The first two frame spaces aft of no. 3 are equal, but the third, back to the transom, is not. So, can you remember either the added spacing you used to get to 16ft, or how you handled that last, unequal spacing to the transom.
Hope my question makes sense.
Thanks,
John P
John P. – See our article on this here: https://www.glen-l.com/weblettr/webletters-4/webletter38.html#notebook
Honestly John, I don’t remember.
Though I do remember following whatever was recommended from the plans.
Likely following the very link that Gayle posted.
When you you say the measurement back to the is unequal, it depends on where you measure from since the transom is at an angle.
Anyway, even if they’re not the same, it’s easy to make the proportional increases based on whatever the existing plan measurements are.
For example, if the transom to first frame distance was half the distance of the spacing between the other two frames, then it would be a 50% increase as compared to the others. So to add the 2 feet to the total length, the spacing increase would be around 10″ / 10″ / 5″ for each section to get you to the 2′ total increase.
Of course the real world spacing proportions will be a lot closer than my example.
Thank you, very much! I hadn’t seen your response until Gayle Brantuk called my attention to it. She seems really on top things. I sorry to hear that the boat is yet to be finished, but completely understand how houses and life can get in the way of avocations! But the pictures are wonderful for me to look at. Thank you again. I’m intrigued by a non-boat element: you have a product apparently intended to coat the interior of rusted steel tubes and channels. I’d never heard of it. Cool.
Good luck with all your projects.
Cheers,
John P
Hello J price. I’ve enjoyed your long thread about building a Celerity. But it seems to end just as you start decking. Have you finished the boat? I assume so, and I’d like to see further pictures. Unfortunately, the address you gave for your picassa albums is no longer working…I gather google changed things around. Can you please give me a current picassa address? I’d really appreicate it.
Cheers,
john P
Thanks John.
It’s been quite a journey. As expected, life got in the way. Bought a new house that we fully renovated, as well as several other projects taking my time.
The construction of the boat is 99% done. Mainly what’s left is getting an outboard and installing that and the controls and electronics.
The hold up there (other than funds) is that i don’t have the space in my current garage for that.
So the current plan is either an outbuilding, or a garage extension. Yay! more projects! lol
So my boat project isn’t dead, just on a long hiatus.
Regarding the web album, I’ll have to look into that. I haven’t touched it in a while.
try this album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LGuVP6UZUBYjMGVA6
it’s not 100% current, but somewhat close.
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You sir should be so proud what you have achieved, no boat should be built the same they all have their own personality that follows their creator’s. I think what you have done brings another level to a brilliant design well done i hope that some day i can do the same . Thanks for posting youe great work and enjoy your creation .
Wow, thank you so much for your very kind words. They mean a lot to me.
I don’t agree. I built a strip/fiberglass kayak almost 30 years ago and have only put one coat of varnish in this time (that was just to cover scratches, the finish was fine).
I still remember being surprised how much strength the glass added, and have made enough mistakes over the years to conclude that 1/8″ cedar strip with glass on both sides is shockingly strong.
What I’m looking for now is carefully measured strength comparisons, but all I am finding is random opinions 🙁
Thank you for such a well presented build. Cheers!
Hi Don, my boat is 7 meters long.
The position of the hlem is on starboard, while prop turn clockwise (looking from the back of the boat), so my weight unfortunately helps to list the boat.
Thanks for your explanation; i have misinterpreted the https://www.boatbuilders.glen-l.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Rudder-Mounting-scaled.jpg
I thought it was to compensate the torque of the prop on the boat.
regards,
Rene
Rene,
What size propeller are you using? Motor size and propeller gearing? A high pitch propeller causes more torque to list the boat to the port side for CW rotation. Depending on the motor HP and propeller RPM, you may be able to try a different propeller with a lower pitch that would reduce the torque to the boat.
Good luck.
Don
Don,
thanks for the response!
I will try and bend my rudder somewhat so it gets a small angle to the centreline.
Although i dont understand how (what mechanism) this will compensate the listing of the boat.
regards,
Rene
Rene,
I am not a naval engineer, but I don’t think changing the rudder angle will compensate for the listing of the boat you describe. It is my understanding that offsetting the rudder improves the steering response in the direction of the offset. Due to the torque of the propeller, the boat will turn easier in the direction opposite of the propeller rotation. How long is you boat?
Don
Hello Don,
very nice site and great project!
I am based in the Netherlands and working on a Riva Aquarama replica.
Got it in the water yesterday and think my rudder is not having good performance.
In driving direction the boat tilts in anti-clockwise (the propellor is clockwise).
I read in your text that rudder should be off centreline.
Do you have some documentation (or links) on this subject?
Thanks in advanceene
Hello Rene, There is information on Glen-l’s website about this. Here is a link to Glen-l’s information. https://glen-l.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6016. I had spent time looking on the internet and found information agreeing with the Glen-l information. The clockwise rotation of the propeller will cause the boat to tilt in a counterclockwise direction under full throttle. If I can find any other information, I will send in a follow up. Good Luck.
Don Collier
Hello Don, thanks for the quick response.
I found some other text stating what you wrote : clockwise propellor causing listing to portside.
This is exactly what i am experiencing.
My rudder and propellor are both in the centerline.
Is there expereinece that when i put the rudder under a small angle, this reduces or corrects the listing?
https://www.boatbuilders.glen-l.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Rudder-Mounting-scaled.jpg
I dont understand how that works, but if there is experience, i will try.
if you like i send pictures from the boat that i am working on.
Regards,
Rene
Rene,
Does the boat sit correctly without the propeller turning? I don’t know of a way to correct for listing under power other than the location of the helm. I read somewhere that the the location of the helm (port or starboard) should be on the same side as the rotation. If the propeller turn clockwise looking from the the back of the boat, the helm should be on the starboard side. Mine is set up that way. I hope this helps.
Don
“Every hour of building tends to be an hour added to one’s life, as if idle hours not spent creating this beloved dream are not life but waste.”
Perfect!
I am quitting my job tomorrow. If I work really hard at it, by the time my next birthday comes around, I will be a year younger.
What a well-written and thoughtful message. Thank you for sending it.
Sounds like a plan, David!
What a fantastic compilation of photographs and some really useful descriptions to go with them.
I will definitely look back over these on some of my builds.
To Chris and all the others who attended this gathering, Nancy and I are thankful for your hospitality, warm friendly welcome and dedication to our his annual event. The COVID cast a cloud that made it difficult for those of us at increased risk, but that didn’t keep people from having fun, as Chris’ photos and videos clearly show. We look forward to next year and wish everyone healthy h and happiness until we meet again.
Walt and Nancy Hansen
Great plans!
Thank you for sharing this project. It turned out very nice and I appreciate the money it saved me.
Our Honda 15 horse fits it satisfactorily and the sturdiness is more than I really expected.
Thank you for sharing. I am very pleased with how this turned out. It was well worth the fifty dollars in materials. Your plans and pictures were very easy to follow. I know I’ll appreciate the luxury of freely moving our motor where it best fits in our garage.
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I have finally cleared all of my projects, organized the workshop…err, the garage and I am ready to order plans. Though I would love to build the Tahoe design at 23′, my space will allow for only 20′. I had chosen the 20′ version of the Barrelback. But after reading the string regarding a hooking issue of the Belle Isle with a similar bow, I have had second thoughts. I live 10 minutes from the Gulf of Mexico, so a boat that can handle the ocean is important. Gayle’s article renewed my concern that the Barrelback may not be my best choice for the intended use. Any advice?
Take a look at the Riviera or Monaco.
Thanks Eric. A very sweet ride, with head snapping accelaration. In retrospect, 250-300HP would be plenty for this hull, but still, can you have too much power!
We went with bolt ropes in our sails. Sailrite can hook you up with a kit.
Hello Burpee and Jo- Anne,
Beautiful Mark Twain you have. I like to know. How long are the pontoons of this boat. And the material you build the cabin, what kind of material is this please. And the last thing the outboard motor. How strong is this one? You always can mail me at patrick.koppen@telenet.be
I’m from Belgium, Europe.
growing up in the Seattle area as kid I loved Hydros so Iwill be looking for more about your boat.
Very nice build!
Hi Gayle…..I loved how you described finding that note from your dad. I have some of my dad’s notes to me … he died when he was 57. Such things are so special now!
Melissa Fannon
Columbus, OH
Aquatron (AmpEater)
Thank you, Melissa. I’m so sorry you lost your dad so young. That must have been challenging…
Thank you for sharing your beautiful project. Can you please tell about the engine HP, gear ration and propeller size/dimentions?
Hi Bob, well done on the build. I’m following in your path but I’ve got a long way to go. I’ll be finishing the hull in a few weeks if I can get the materials I need. I’m in Melbourne and you clearly have access to things that I’m finding difficult to source. Any chance of a mentoring session? Well done.
Glad to help if I can. I’ve kept records of where I got everything, and bought everything through local suppliers where that was possible. 0421076974. Look forward to hearing from you.
Great work!
How long did the build take you?
It took me two and a half years part time. It was very satisfying to complete this project and have such a great boat. I get compliments every time I take it out!
Thanks for sharing your photos and plans. I build the stand last night and am very pleased with how it turned out. I realized that I misread one of your instructions, and then couldn’t figure out why the upright pieces seemed too short to reach out to the ends of the base, and the angles were wrong. Yet, I changed the angles and made it work. (It was getting dark so it was harder to see – lol).
Please publish a summary of the changes that were required vs the standard plans, and a list of the electrical components you used, with source information. I think a lot of Barrelback builders would like the option of an electric drivetrain vs a traditional setup.
Beautiful build. Where did you source your lumber from?
Thank you! I had the lumber shipped in from LL Johnson lumber in Charlotte, MI. I used genuine mahogany.
Just found your site for a reason. My grandmother just passed and this weekend my grandfather was sharing with me about the ski boats he designed and built for the family during the 50’s through the 70’s in Turlock. I think it’s my turn. Thanks for these stories & the motivation. Time to learn and gear up for the build. Blessings!
I’m so glad you’ve found us, Jonathan! Many blessings to you as well…
All I can say is, WOW! Reminds me of my first Glen-L boat, the Pee Wee. Sold it to my best friend in high school, that put an old Merc 20 on it…
Thanks for the well-described plans. I built one for a 6HP Yamaha tiller. I’m very pleased with the result. Cost was about $70 CAD. Finally, I can put the sawhorse that I was previously using, away!
Thanks a lot Michael for this outboard motor stand plan. I have successfully built my own following your step by step procedures with photos. It fits my Yamaha F8, I stood back and admire the finish product as per your advise haha… Much appreciated brother, more power to you!
I mentioned this verse to my wife this morning but couldn’t recall the reference. Then, here you are providing it. “Think on these things …”
great boat i want to build one with inboard motor
It’s a bit small for an inboard!
what is the number of this boat plan from glenl please respond
This is the Glen L Zip plan, but I modified it somewhat.
61-463
Thank you for taking the time to share some personal family memories and feelings.
Those sure were different times from now. Thank you for carrying on the tradition of boat building and helping people find some happiness.
We’re grateful to be able to do so.
As you have many times, you’ve brought me to tears as you bare your heart with your simple honesty and humanness. Thank you for being so real and for keeping me on your mailing list.
Sincerely, Joe
Joe, that is so kind of you to say. Thank you.
Back in the late 50’s, I built the Rebel…just wondering where that name originated ?
Bill Merkin
Bill, that one I don’t know for sure. But probably because it’s a rebel 🙂
Hi Gayle,
Thank you so much for sharing that insight into your family. A bittersweet look back at the family and places that shaped the person you are.
Your father not only designed great boats but fantastic buildings. Your family home and lake cabin look wonderful. I love the story of your sister hanging you over the balcony.
Elizabeth, my wife had four older brothers and when the family travelled to Canada by boat in the mid 60’s they would hang her over the side by her ankles. They all thought it was great fun! Never told her parents, though. I let it slip in a conversation with her Dad many years later, thinking he knew. He turned grey and was very quiet for a time. I guess that is the beauty of remembering things past, it means we are still here to think on it.
Thank you, again.
Brett McCauley
Brisbane. Australia.
Brett, great story about your wife! Thank you for the very kind comments. My dad was an amazing man.
This is why I’m a Glen-L fan. I love your family. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Ralph. That’s a heartwarming comment.
I really enjoyed all the pictures of the building process. You should be proud. That’s Joe Thurber perfection.
Thanks Steve! It was quite a learning experience!
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Good day.
I am interested in building a Mini Tugbiat sweet 16.
Do you have a photo of the sleeping areas, please?
It would help me a lot.
Thank you Oscar
Mike, I’m building a sweet 16 and would love to chat!
Thanks for your service Bob. If not for people like you, idiots like me can’t turn mums garage into a boat shop. Awesome boat.
Beautiful boat ! Well done !
Thanks you for your service!
Enjoy the ride!
Bob,
Beautiful boat and thankyou for your service to our country!
Mike C.
Hello Ted,
Was wondering if you could share about your build and performance of the CS20?
Thanks
Kevin, you can find photos and feedback on Ted’s CS-20 in our Galleries: https://boatbuilders.glen-l.com/cs-20/
BobD,
Keep up the good work! Former US Navy ( OT2 ) with PTSD and TBI. I’m on my 10th home built boat. And have carved over 70 sailboat half models from lines plans. Only recently purchased the plans for Gentry, but have to finish another strip planked pram I started a while ago. I might slip a USCA marathon C-1 racing canoe in after the pram though….we’ll see. I agree, it’s great therapy so stay with it!
USrowboy
ps: I managed to slip in 34 yrs of competitive paddling and rowing also! And I still paddle and row! Helps the focus and concentration. Lots of time to think….about the next project.
John – Thanks Mate – you are prolific, not sure I’ll build another as big and complex as the Riviera, but there will be more to come! The ‘thinking about it’ is as important as the doing!
Great build, and looks like it would be a nice fun ride. And I say Thank You for your service. All of Us Veterans need to stick together.
With a sock type sail as on the Sabotina, what do you do if you have to lower the sail when you are out on the water like if the wind picks up?
You wouldn’t be able to lower the sail unless you dropped the mast.
Terrific Job!!
Which Power-Row Skiff did you build? Is it fiber glassed? Would you make any part of it beefier?
Thank you, and congratulations!
Beautiful pictures. My dad built this boat 50 years ago and I still have it.
That is just plain beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Just saw your post from 2013. Did you build your boat after and if so how did it turn out?
Hi Don, I’m on your heals . but just at the beginning of my Riviera build. I have a skeleton and I’m fairing away before I begin the process of cladding it. I have found the stem particularly difficult and needing re-working as I learn how the lines work and the plans fall short of detail.
Did you use metal or plastic staples?
I’m in Australia so I guess we are a world apart, but any advice would help. Like you, my time is divided and the build has to fit in. Still, as the issues get worked through my enthusiasm improves.
Graham,
On the first 2 lamination’s of the cladding, I used 4mm thick Hydrotek Merante marine plywood and thousands of #8 x 3/4 st. stl. screws. I fastened the layer every 4 100MM or so. I felt the screw would force the plywood to lay down better. Of course every layer is epoxied. On the final layer, I used the Raptor plastic staples. You don’t have to pull them out, just sand them off and they are invisible.
Don
Thanks for that. Like you, I’m building the Riviera 10% longer than the actual lines. How did that affected the length of the shaft and where the shaft support was positioned?
Hi Graham, The positioning will depend on which shaft support you select as they are at different angles. I purchased mine from Glen-L. I have a drawing I used to layout the position of the strut and the hole thru the bottom if you would like for a reference. See my purchased hardware below.
Item No. – 90-101B
Description – Bronze Rudder Stuffing Box – 1 1/8
Item No. – 90-728
Description – Pickup Scoop Strainer
Item No. – MHST724
Description – Bronze Strut – 15.4 degree – 7.5 drop for 1″ Shaft
Item No. – 90-195
Description – Shaft Log – 15 Degree Bronze
Item No. – 90-232
Description – Shaft Log Hose – 1 3/4
Item No. – 90-818
Description – Hose Clamp 1 5/16 – 2 1/4 Stainless
Item No. – 90-223
Description – Rudder Stuffing Box – 1 Packing-Type Bronze
Really Nice Job Richard. People will think that it is a vintage Elco.
What are you using for propulsion?
Very nice job.
Thank You! I am hopeful to get it in the water this year. I should be releasing the next update shortly. Don Collier
Ken, did you utilize the skeg design in your boat?
You seemed to have pretty good speed in one of the videos.
Thanks,
Tom
Has anyone built or are building a steel sweet 16. I’m currently doing so and would love to correspond with someone.
Just starting my build of a 20’ barrelback from Glen-L. Any updates? By the by, heading to Australia for a few weeks in September 2020…
Thanks for sharing.
Hi Donald, thanks for the information—very helpful. First, I’m just starting my build of. 20’ Barrelback. My family asked me for Christmas gift ideas and I asked for a DeWalt 20v Max 18g rad/finishing nail gun, with the idea that I’d use it with the Raptor composite brads to holds the layers while the epoxy dried. Should I have asked for the stapler instead, or do you think the 18g nails will work. And, any idea if the Raptor products are compatible with standard nail guns like the DeWalt as opposed to the Raptor nailers?
Thanks again! Chris S.
Hi Chris,
I would recommend the staples. Even though you will be applying a veneer, it takes considerable holding force when bending the veneers around the curves at the bow. You will want to make sure the veneer is fully seated against the under layers so as not to have voids. Even using the staples, I had a could of small voids. You can find them by tapping on the hull every 1/2 inch or so. If there is a void, it has a much different sound. To fix it, drill a small hole (1/16) through the veneer and use a plastic syringe filled with epoxy to fill the void.
I used the recommended gun for the Raptor staples and purchased it from Glen-L. It does work well, but will need to be oiled periodically to prevent jamming.
I hope this answers your questions. Please feel free to ask others if needed. I am coming down the home stretch of finishing my Riviera. I need to update my posts here at Glen-L showing the steps and progress.
Don Collier
Hi Donald,
Thank you for your great reply.
As far as I know, the composite staples are better for boat building. But some customers also use brad nails.
So I think the best way is to test them both.
Michael
Well…..Well…..Well, what a surprise. For a long time I was making the wrong assumption about what ‘displacement’ represented. The article is very well written and makes total sense. The topic of displacement will make good conversation with my boating buddies. I just hope that most of them are surprised and not looking at me with a ‘you didn’t know’ look. Thanks
Hello
beautiful boat and with twin electric Warp 9 s bang up to date
I am building a like Glenn L 19ft barrelback and researching the Warp 9s they quote
35 hp but at 5000 rpm.
You don’t seem to have reduction gear .. can you explain what im getting wrong here.
I read 1 electric hp= approx 3 gas motor horse so about 90 hp per side for a total
of 180 horses…/
cheers
Beautiful! What was the cost of the motors, if you don’t mind?
hi Greg, just found your post. I have just embarked on building a Tahoe 19 and about to start configuring the transom and keel design to take a Hamilton jet .will run a keel either side of the jet intake from the Transom to frame 3 anything else I might need to consider, value your input.
Hi Mark, the two problems I ran into was the low speed steering which is a pretty standard jet drive problem which we solved with two small rudders attached to the jet ours being an older model Hamilton. There are spring loaded blades available in the US that can be retro fitted to solve the handling problem. The other was that I mounted the jet too deep inboard on the boat and should have had her sticking out more as this affected the ability to reverse as the water was hitting the base of the transom when diverted instead of going under the boat. I fabricated another place diverter which protruded further out which solved this.The navel architect suggested I leave the area forward of the intake for about 3ft as flat as possible for the water flow. This has also worked very well. The only other thing I changed was to build a dam around the rear of the jet with an automatic bilge pump in case of a transom seal failure.
This is a very good and extremely well documented plan. Nice work. Thank you.
I have not yet added casters. I an choosing to roll a bin of water underneath the motors using my garage creeper or a moving dolly. I altered the length of the 32″ uprights. I used 30″ for my Suzuki DF20A regular shaft and 33″ for my Yamaha F4 long shaft. This resulting in the skegs being 4″ above the floor. Maybe 2″ higher as specified in the plans would be better for fitting an oil catch pan underneath.
Thanks Ray. I new friend from Miami area has been in touch. Want’s to stop by.
I like the interest, Hope people really like what I’ve done.
Read article.. very informative.. what is thought on stainless steel used for rudders ?
I love the lines of Sweet 16 but I’m looking for an identical boat 8 – 10 longer.
Any advice?
You might take a look at our Fred Murphy design: https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=741
thanks to all GLEN L MARINE MENBERS
Carlos Bairo
Looking great Ed!
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Just want to let you know that I have , Building the Glen-L Tuffy Part 1 , if you are interested,Contact me on my direct email( stephaniemaxwell520@gmail.com ) Thanks
I have built 3 wood frame plywood covered Pirouges and have purchased plans for a Clark Craft paddle boat. I wood like to attend the Glen L gathering to see other self built projects and talk with the builders.
Great job; I am thinking of building the Hunky Dory 23 also. Thanks for sharing.
Wow….Paul, nice work and great finishing. Hope you enjoy your boat for many years to come!
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Thank you for posting your progress. Your electrical wiring diagram was most helpful and inspiring. After reviewing it, I spent several days selecting all of the electrical components I will be using in my Malahini build. I created a similar wiring diagram with accompanying charts showing wire gauges, connectors, and wire numbers. I wouldn’t have thought of doing this until I read your article, so many thanks. Happy boating! your Tuffy is beautiful.
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Great template. Just used stuff I had around the garage (I had to buy a set of casters). Thanks for this!
Really happy to read your news, it’s been a while since I visit your site and I noticed that you have not posted news.
Look close at the first lines, you will see the latest link, Aug 19th. nothing since then.
Hey Ramond.
My name is John Wilder and I live in Jacksonville. Care to have coffee and swap stories. 904-655-2175
Hello John, I would like to meet both of you.
My daughter lives in Middleburg and my wife wants a day trip.
If you two can meet, we would like to come up next sat. the 21
where ever you say. It’s been a long time since I lived off Beach Blvd.
Don’t know the restaurants or snack shops.
Chief Ed
Wow Ed!, You are a natural. I am being tempted to build a lengthened Fred Murphy in AL. after reading what your build is like. Love the “character notes and jokes.” It makes it all the more interesting. Especially liked the “pairing” too. I have wondered about that. I built a radome ped on the front of my pylon/mast. wondered if I could find a small rotator antenna to fit. I will be looking now. Keep it up. At the rate you are progressing you’ll possibly pass me. I am still laying circuitry wire.
Wow looks great Ed! I too am building a Glen L. Just getting started though and not retired yet so moving a lot slower than you. Comments suggest you might also be in Jacksonville.
Ed, This build makes me speechless, then I have a hundred questions, .. And Mine is nearing completion! Please Ed, talk to Gayle about doing a blog on this. I think it would be fascinating. Keep going, it is a beauty.
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Beautiful! I think the blue center stripe is unique and adds depth to the deck. Never seen one like that, I like it. Can’t wait to see the next installment.
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We has similar issues with a boat refurbish and for ‘next time’ I decided I would put a layer of fiberglass cloth over the deck and then apply finishing coats. The Fiberglass cloth will bind the different strips of mahogany and maple together providing horizontal structural support. At least that’s my theory, I would be interested in hearing other opinions. In this case I would likely sand down to the wood and then start over.
I am contemplating building a Barrel Back 19. And having constructed Soap Box Derby Cars for over 40 years I’m quite versed in Wood and Fibreglass construction. I have found that “S” Fibreglass cloth has a tighter weave than standard cloth making it much stronger. Just my opinion, any thoughts?
I need some ideas for keel hoist for mine.I just got gifted the boat and finishing up some projects on it to make it sea worthy.
Thanks!
Andrew
It is more practical in a small boat to have a sealed cockpit that is small enough that if it totally swamps it will not sink the boat. A decent hand bailer should handle all but the most severe water ingress, or a bilge pump that can be either permanently installed or placed in to handle such events should be enough. I have sailed a 16 ft boat for years and the only water I have ever had come in is wave splash and rain, which rarely accumulates faster than intermittent bailing can’t handle.
Could you comment on the method you used to apply your bottom paint? Spray, roller-tiped, other?
Hi Larry, I did the roll and tip method and I think it worked great. I had someone else help so that one person could roll a section and the other would follow with the brush. This let me keep a good wet edge and move a bit faster
Beautiful little tug. Amazing looking brightwork.
Dan H, she sits on the waterline, just painted the antifoulant to 4″ above it as recommended by the manufacturer.
Hi Ron
I guess this article was published some while ago. I am 70 and have purchased the Chinook plans. I live in Australia and have handyman type woodworking skills. Have you any advice please. I hope you are able to reply.
Regards
Jim Roberts
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Thanks Darren. I hope it will be useful for other boat builders. I have have used Glen-L as a resource many times throughout the build process.
What a journey. You have done so much work and yet still have a long way to go.
Hang in there. Your documentation is superb. Your boat is magnificent.Thank you very kindly for sharing the build.
Wow the detail in your descriptions is inspirational. I can’t wait to see the finished product. You are a master craftsman in my opinion.
Nice work, I purchased the plans for Tuffy some time ago but have yet to put them into action.
I plan to start getting supplies together this year. i am based in the UK, some need to look for some of the supplies here. did you buy your screws and fibreglass kits from glen-l directly? or use a local supplier?
thanks for sharing your experience.
Hey Adam, good luck with the Tuffy! I did buy the fastening kit and fiberglass kit from glen-l directly. It seemed like the easiest option, I’m sure you could save a bit if you really put in the effort to find a cheap supplier, but I felt like that would cost me a lot of time and likely a lot of trips to the store. The glen-l kits had everything I needed aside from some screws here and there that I needed for things I added that weren’t in the plans.
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Boat looking very nice I may start billing to squirt I was really interested in your boat rotator
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very nice looking boat. wander about the motor hp…?? Looking forward to see your electrical work – and learn from it.
I have a 30hp Yamaha on it which is plenty for what I want to do, even wakeboarding. It’s also a very light motor which is what I wanted, 2-stroke and no power tilt. With a heavier 4-stroke 40hp I would be worried about waves coming over the transom when the boat is fully loaded and it gets choppy.
Keep ’em coming! This is one design I have liked for years, but just not built one yet. Now I will be more inclined to do it sooner than later. Thanks so much for sharing.
Enjoyed the article about the Riviera. It is similar to the Chris Craft Capri I restored.
My first Glen-L was an 8 ball in 1967, it served as a training boat for my 3 kids. I am planning to build another Glen-L similar to your Renegade.
Es posible conseguirlo pre-cortado. (kit)
We don’t have a wood kit for the Sabotina but we do have other kits available for this design on our site.
Gayle, “In Bellflower since 1956”, eh?
Oops–thanks for pointing that out! I’ve fixed it…
Interesting and good job, man. At what stage are you now?
I just submitted an update. should be approved in a couple days. wiring mostly. Lots of details, and special parts. more in a couple weeks.
Galye, thanks for sharing the status of Buckshot. I’m guessing he’s had a great run of life considering he was your close friend. I have had many furry friends pass and it’s a difficult thing to adjust to. On a different note, I would like to say that the Newt is still swimming and happy.
Very sharp! Any further feedback on how this boat performed once it was splashed?
My dad (in South Africa) have built a Missile marine plywood boat in the seventies.He ordered the plans from Glen L.
We built our Riviera without a fin originally. However when turning it slid. Next winter 3 fins were added under the motor and the control improved immensely. The boat no longer slid in the turns and held whether pulling 1 skier or 3. It is also great fun to pull “power turns” and soak the folks in the rear cockpit.
Great feedback, Mark. Thank you!
Would you provide a person to come abroad to build a boat say 15’ feet. A rowing one and how much approx. cost only labor charge?
Adel, we don’t build boats but we do have plans for you to build your own–see our online catalog for options: https://www.boatdesigns.com/Boat-Plans-Kits-Catalog/departments/2/ We ship our plans all over the world.
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I have never built a boat but I am considering building the Malahini beginning this Spring. All the boat terms and nomenclature are new to me and I’ve never even had a boat license, so I am a true novice. Its inspiring though to see people like you build boats from scratch. I look forward to following your progress.
Thank you much for the news and pictures
Ken, Brian, and Jeremy, great looking boats! I’m currently 75 hours into my build. I’d love to get more info from you if you are willing and able. As I said on my blog post,Gayle is going I get sick of me really quickly! I’ve also got an iPhoto share site up of the process if anyone wants to check it out.
Great job under difficult circumstances. Where there’s a will there’s a way. Thanks for sharing.
Hello!
This is a good article because there are many tips and also many advices that will be very useful for me.
Thanks!
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Walter
Helping a guy in Clear lake with a 8 ft Minimost.
Walter I live in northeast Houston, be happy to help you anyway I can. I built my first boat at 13, in the 12 years I have built 3 or 4 a year, all small. I have an extensive knowledge of outboards and rigging. My cell is 832 473 8928 and email john.platou@yahoo.com
I built a malahini finished October 2016. Great boat. Did a lot of research on new motors. The Yamaha f70 is an unbelievably great motor for the boat. Great power to weight ratio at 253 lbs. 4 stroke starts always instantly without priming. I hit 37mph at 6300rpm. I can plane out with 6 full sized adults. At 4000rpm I get 9mpg. Reliable motor. I have 15inch aluminum prop. My boat isn’t light either. Extra woodwork instead and deck. 13g tank under back just in front of motorwell next to battery.
Dan,
The ducts look great. I will be ready for a road trip when you get the castings. I wish I could do more than encourage you. The epoxy paint sprayer is brilliant.
Jim
Love the brightwork !
Have Glen L15 build in 1985 that needs to be rebuild. Your work gives me some ideas.
bought Glen L15 build in 1985. Needs some resto, but I am using it as a motorboat for now. Would like to give the boat some bright finishes that she deserves.
Love what you doing with your boat !!
I wanted to do this about ten years ago but new jets are expensive and used ones are trash.
Hi Jim,agreed!. I was lucky enough to get my hands on two identical Hamilton jets that were in great condition. The older ones are a lot easier to fabricate spares for and repair.
Correction, at this address:
http://boatbuilders.glen-l.com/tunnel-king-design/?album=246&gallery=1725
I see you can actually back into Derek’s images at:
https://www.facebook.com/152-AOG-117149651658834/
Gayle, Such a nice tribute to you and your family. What a history you have I always read all your posts and enjoy them for the tech stuff and just for reading pleasure. I go back to 1957 Jr high wood shop days in South Florida to my beginning boat building days. Thanks to my boat plans from Gen L
I had a small lawn cutting service and it helped pay for my first plan set. I new a lot of guys who built from Glen`s plans . We fished from the boats , we raced the boats, we water skied , we camped out of them and dreamed of the next boat ! Thank you for the history of Glen L Marine. PS I have spent 60 plus years in the maritime boat business and enjoyed it all.
cant figure out to line up the bow & transom what is the key
Bobby, the drawing of the building form shows the location of the transom and bow and forms–these are all positioned with set-up levels matching and at the angles noted.
Is there a comparison or advise on replacing wood casting decks with aluminum?
Dear Gayle……NEVER accept the statement the he was just a dog!
A dog comes to us at some stage of it’s life and IMMEDIATELY begins to become a part of our basic being until his spirit becomes mingled with our spirit. Then, suddenly, we are spiritually one. When he has to go “home”, it is an indescribably excruciating painful awakening! I don’t think it is humanly possible to ever get over the indescribable loss except to KNOW that some day WE WILL BE REUNITED!!
God Bless You,
Tommy
Thank you, Tommy.
What a great pair of creative talent existed with Ken and Glen. We are benefactors of that creativity and I for one am glad that Gayle and company has continued their legacy. I intend to build more of their designs in the future and invite their spirits to accompany me on the water. Thanks
That’s great to hear, Bob. Thank you for the kind comments…
I am just a couple of months behind you (started the the middle of May) on a Key Largo in Jacksonville, FL USA. Finishing up frame #6 currently.
Gayle
It was a bittersweet moment being there that day.
It was very nice to make a final visit at the old shop and to take home a few
Glen L artifacts.
The painting’s on the wall and the fish is perfect hanging above the fireplace.
Hope you enjoy your new digs. I will miss the old place.
I know you won’t miss the commute.
Regards
Mark
I’m glad you were able to stop by and get a few mementos–it was nice to see you!
I’m considering a first build of a Scrambler. If anyone has any tips for me I’d appreciate hearing them. I was also curious if anyone has built that design and has used a small outboard of 15hp? I will be pan fishing smaller waters and don’t have a need for speed, but don’t want to languish either. Any input will be valuable.
Thanks George Simousek
That’s great news, Roger. This will be my third boat build, but the first two were not Glen-L designs. The Malahini will be the largest so far. Where will you be in Texas? We are south of Houston in League City. I hope we can connect when you get down here.
Have built one Glen L boat when I was in college and am looking forward to building another one.
Is there any one in Alabama or Georgia who has built one would like to contact them for info
need all the help I can get
Trebao je biti unutrašnji VW 19 TDI na Znogu Volvo Penta, ali sam od toga odustao, dolazi 90 ili 100 HP vanbrodski, Evinrude E-tec ili Yamaha. Plus mali motor 4-5 ks za štedljivu plovidbu, nizvodno ili slično..
I am so sorry for your loss. Of course you are crying, it was not just a dog but a beloved family member. Tears are rolling down my cheeks as I type this. He will not be replaceable in your heart but as time goes by, you just need to get a new pup who will be completely different.
Blessings on you and yours
John
Thank you, John
They have a tendency to grown on us. I still miss my chocolate lab “Chaco”. He was a great companion. He was tough on the other dogs and would pin my wife in the bathroom late at night during his later years . 16 years is a long time for a big dog. Yours was able to be a good friend longer than mine. I chose to think he knowingly made a space for our newer dogs.
Thank you, Jim. We are so thankful to have had Buck so long…
Gayle- So sorry for the loss of your companion.
Thanks Mark…
Let me be one of the first to say from experience like yours, your description probably does not do him justice. These wonder friends are as important and valuable as almost any child. I lost my first handicapped companion “Moose” to a cruel rancher that lured him off our property because he hated us. The loss is hard to fill. I have worked and schemed for over 18 years, how to get another like my moose. If my efforts are successful, I know it will not replace your Buckshot, but I will have an extremely rare and special friend to send your way. My wife’s and my hearts go out for your loss.
Thank you, Dan. That’s horrible about Moose!
mladene
sjajna izrada! dokle ste stigli s projektom ? šta planirate za pogon.
ja sam u NS, na Dunavu, i ovaj mi se brod uvek čini “taman” .
nice
I recently bought a 21 ft. plywood Hartley (the beautiful ‘Pterodactyl’) in Adelaide, AU. The boat had been moored for 6 months and when it was pulled out it became apparent that the paint below the waterline had deteriorated and was coming off in sheets. It has not been ‘epoxy-ed’, the paint appears to be oil-based. I had made up my mind to ‘West-System’ the hull: epoxy/glass..until I came across your article. In Australia the term ‘latex’ is not used / I haven’t come across it. We do have exterior waterbased acrylic paints such as Dulux Weathershield, British Paints and Solver also make exterior acrylic paints (with warranties of up to 25 years..) ..question: are these ‘latex-based’ paints?
Rolf, I can’t answer your question as we aren’t familiar with paint in your country. Perhaps you can contact the paint manufacturer.
I’m not a boat builder – but your chart was really helpful in my decision between ply and alum for my project.
Thanks 🙂
Thanks for posting each step, I look forward to seeing it all completed.
You’re welcome Pat! I plan on posting a new step each day until I’m caught up and then as I progress through this build. I’m working on the seats and bracing now.
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Hey, Go for it bud! I look forward to every installment.
Thanks Dan, It’s been a lot of fun so far. I think I’ll be done in about 5 weeks.
Speaking of Women and Sailors and Boats… This was a Great Read!
https://www.amazon.com/Women-Sailors-David-Cordingly-ebook/dp/B000FC1L2O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1520973500&sr=8-2&keywords=sailors+women+and+women+sailors
You are one very talented man! Kudos to you on a excellent construction job so far…
xxx
For my first build, good idea?
I love these boats. I do have a history with them when I was a teenager. I grew up on a lake in Ohio that had two of the most beautiful mahogany speed boats I’ve ever seen. Dinamite and Firecracker. Thanks for the emails.
Good to hear, Michael!
What a thrill! Nothing better than the reward of enjoying your own handiwork. Until you build something like this you cannot fathom (no pun intended) the joy that building and floating your own boat brings. It’s the culmination of every master craftsman:….carpenter, cabinet maker, mechanic, plumber, electrician, painter……a testimony to your talents. Nice work Jim, Bravo! Happy sailing!
Why do I only have one picture of a scarf joint !!! It’s the only one I ever let Marc do 😉
In our duo, I was the perfectionist and he was the super locomotive pushing the project forward… We were a great duo…
We started the built in April 2004 and finished the project in July 2005. Because of Canadian winters, we had to stop between October and March. We both had all our time to devote to “Project Wildcat”…
Do net expect to finish a project like this in +/- 1 year… Our “project manager”, a professional wooden boat builder / repairer thought it would take us 4-5 years to finish (Canadian winters again).
When the boat, for commercial purposes, was inspected by Transport Canada, the inspector thought we were professional builders. That was largely du to all of Jean-Pierre’s advises (Vexcel.ca) He was helpful !!!
About the WILDCAT design. When it was cold, all divers wanted the protection of the windshield and came forward… This brought more weight forward than the boat is designed to carry. It is the only “pseudo-negative” that Marc and I agreed on…
With 2 x 90 HP Honda’s, at minimum weight on a flat St-Lawrence river, we achieved our fastest speed… 65 Km/h (GPS)
You’ll see the boat in this vidéo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZyT2FBAUho
Hey Chris, This is as close to social media as I will ever get… So no response on twitchy/face or any of that other stuff. As for the media used in the sandblasting process, I finally got around to contacting the Blaster. He said it was “40/80 quarts, shot to a white metal surface, and a 1/2 – 1 Mil matt finish.” He also related that unlike some others, he never re-uses his sand tailings. He always uses fresh sand each job. If you were in the SW Missouri area, he is the best priced and always willing to look at the job. A really great contractor.
I just purchased boat plans for this boat, any advise for the aluminum plans?
How does the 115hp do on this boat ?
I’m interested in building a wood drift boat. I’m a disabled veteran who wants to help other veterans through fishing the New River and Greenbrier River of west Virginia. Fly and spincasting fishing smallmouth. I was just curious about supplies, cost, time line and building plans.
Robbie–Thank you for your service–your plan sounds like an honorable one. There’s a bill of materials on our site for the Driftboats so you can determine costs of materials in your area: https://www.boatdesigns.com/images/driftboats-bom.pdf Time to build is entirely up to you! We have many of the supplies needed to build on our site. Thank you for choosing Glen-L…
love the design.
Qual o valor do plano do catamara
Looks as though a good time was had by all. One day…one day….whilst cruising the Great Loop maybe timing will coincide with G20 or so! ha.
Blessings
Scott H
thinking of this design, would you have more photos of the build. and how is the performance.
Glad this worked for him, certainly the most complicated turning of a relatively small and light boat I have see.
At least it appears to have been relatively safe. 🙂
I agree this is really complex and it doesn’t let the hull flex even a mite. Flexing is good since the hull will flex in the water.
I’ve built a half dozen Glen L boats including a Glen L 25′ dory/flat bottom, (see pix in photo section). That was in 2005. I have turned it over many times with ropes, a few 4×4’s, a Willys Jeep, and a deadman. Trick is to know your knots.
But Bravo anyways, after all it’s a firstborn boat, which is special. I’m too poor to afford all that extra lumber and bolts. John Stevens
🙂
Dear Gayle,
Please accept my condoleances for the loss of your father. He lived a great life based on what he has done and left behind him. Including so many people touched by his work and passion.
Yours trully,
Eugen Frunza
Richmond Hill ON Canada
Thank you, Eugen.
having read this in Inboard Installations…it is a great time to review as i come closer and closer to flipping the hull. great information…blessings, scott
Is it possible to build the Bonanza with the engine mounted in the stern driving a jet pump? How badly would that effect balance, and can it be corrected? I really like the design, but my wife really dislikes the engine box in the middle of the boat. I must, I don’t care much for it myself. Thanks.
We don’t recommend moving the motor to the stern on the Bonanza specifically because of balance issues.
Is there any way to compensate for the change in balance?
Possibly but we won’t suggest options if we don’t recommend doing so.
Just read about your dad Gayle. Yes, he was a wonderful man and seemed to have lived a good full life. Popular Mechanics and Glen-L have been with me for many years, and I loved the information provided by both companies. At 74 I still use my Glen-L Audeen regularly. My boat is admired by many and I always mention Glen-L and direct others to your wonderful website. You can be very proud of your dad and the company and beautiful designs that he created.
Thank you so much, Al. And, also for the mentions about Glen-L–we really appreciate that. My dad’s birthday was 8/22/17, the day you posted this comment, and he would have been 99… good to hear about your Audeen too! That’s a great design…
Wow Norm, that is some beautiful work. A true masterpiece in action. The exterior is unique and demands respect. Your attention to detail leaves nothing to be desired. It should serve you well for many years AND, fetch a hansome price when you want to sell it.
Just resumed my long project and sad to read about the passing of your Dad! He was truly blessed to have been able to work with his daughter and in a job that he loved. No doubt the reason he lived so long! What a proud man he must have been! I am now even more determined to finish my Bandido project.
I appreciate the kind comments–keep us posted on your Bandido!
I’m very impressed! I would like to be updated as you go along. There is something special about building a boat but you really went to the max with your work.You have to feel that accomplishment that only you can receive from the work that you have done!
All the more reason not to deviate from the plans
Hey Valley Girl,I reviewed all the the boats shown and they really look
Good. I look forward to all your postings,so keep-em coming.
Great article and outstanding designs.
Thanks, Paul
What a wonderful article. It was really nice to see the connection with Ken and Glenwood. Your father was a very talented man and I feel honored to have built one of his designs.
We’re proud of the beautiful boat you’ve built! Thank you for the comment.
“best dad a gal could have”! That’s the winner. Well done.
blessings, scott
Thanks Scott…
My deepest condolence for the lost of your father. I’m sorry for your dad’s passing.
Thank you.
Great professional that has inspired my career
That’s wonderful to know, Marcos!
I have been reading Wooden Boat magazine for years and learned of Glen-L Marine from adds in Wooden Boat. I grew up in Downey, CA, where my mom still lives. I often drive up Rosecrans to the 605 freeway on my way back from my mom’s house to our place in Fountain Valley. I still have intentions to build MY own wooden boat after retirement, which is not too far away. My dad bought an unfinished Javlyn hull and finished it in our garage there in Downey when I was 4 years old (60 years ago). I have dreamed about building my own boat since then. I just love looking through your catalog, reading your articles, and cruising around your website. I am sorry for your dad’s passing. What a fantastic body of work he acheived.
You’ll have to stop by one day and say hi! I appreciate your kind words.
My deepest condolences for the loss of your father. You are a living monument to his memory, this was a beautiful tribute to a wonderful man.
I appreciate that, Mike.
Just plain beautiful!
How wonderful it would be if all we dad’s enjoyed a daughter like you and a life full of wonderful things to share.
I’m sure he is proud as I’m sure you too are.
Thank you for your kind comments–I appreciate that.
Dear Gayle
My condolences from ‘down under in Australia’ on the death of your dad.
He certainly seemed to be a man for all seasons and both hemispheres.
“Deep peace of the running wave to you”
Tim
Your articles are always very informative. They address questions i did not know i had. Boating safety is some times not considered when choosing a design.
Hey Allen
Skiing works best at about 20 mph well below the speed limit that Gayle is talking about.
This is great information because these are the very boats I have been considering. I am looking for a cruiser that I can also pull a tube or skier. However, I don’t know boats well enough to know what speed range I need for skiing. Can you point me in the right direction for a good all-round boat? Thank you.
The Riviera or Monaco would be good for skiing. The Monaco has an open cockpit utility version as well.
Hello Dan,
I have the Goliath plans and will be building in aluminum. I’m a retired computer repair tec. ( USN 22 years). I’ve got a Lincoln MIG 180 Welder (220 volt).
The building form is complete and ready to go. I tried the welder and it would not burn the aluminum, so off to the service center in Orlando. Brand new and broke. Can hardly wait to really get started. I’ve bought the alum. for all the frames and stiffeners.
Ed make sure you have GREAT ventilation doing aluminum otherwise you won’t be able to enjoy your end result.
Beautiful camper. Great Job. How difficult was it to modify the plans to the size and specs you wanted? Where did you get your building supplies, appliances, etc.?
Thanks for the compliment.
Super easy to modify the framing and structural part of the Glen L plans. I just reduced the front and rear dimensions (lengthwise) . Even though I don’t think it was entirely necessary, I shortened the cabover (bed) dimension, in order to reduce the cantilever over the cab and to reduce weight. I kept all widths the same as on the Glen L plans.
As far as supplies, believe it or not, Home Depot carries 1×2, 2×2, 1×4, 1×6 lumber which are the dimensions you need for framing. They also carry structural plywood for the base, etc, and 1/8″ veneer for the interior.
Appliance and accessory wise, I used the internet…primarily eBay. That way I was able to shop and compare, and look for the best prices.
Thanks for the inquiry.
Beautiful work – far better than “factory” and of course, exactly how you wanted it. What is the total dry weight?
Thanks for the compliment. The total dry weight is 2,000 lbs. Works on a short bed, heavy duty 1/2 ton with rear air bags but a 3/4 ton would be better.
A couple years ago I saw on your website a complete description of the building of a runabout with many pictures of the project as it progressed. I would like to study this article again but now I don’t seem to be able to find it. Can you tell me where it is? Pete
Use Sheet Plywood Construction
and Multi-Diagonal Planking Pictorial Guide
What is the minimum HP (outboard) needed to get the 19′ version in wood to plane out? Since this is the same hull used in several boat designs then, I assume, the hull weight is about 1200lbs for the wooden 19 footer.
Minimum hp is about 75. The Mackinaw in wood weighs about 1400 pounds.
Objects of beauty, grace or speed are traditionally frequently named after women. Probably in deference to the weaker sex. (Old fashioned I know.)
Thanks for the tips and the response. I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me. I will follow your advise and try the forum. Right now, I’m following some additional information I received and constructing a steam box out of PVC. I also plan to pre-soak the chine a day in advance then steam it for a couple of hours. I was also informed to keep it wet while working with it. The chine is 1 1/2 by 3/4 10′ long
Bill Mitchell
Apologize for the previous short comment an old habit from my job. I’m retired and living in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas area. I started this project almost 3 years ago, but had to put it aside to finish remolding my house. So now, I’m picking up where I left off, which was trying to figure out how to install the chine logs My first attempt resulted in sharp bends in the chine log. This my first attempt at building a boat, so is there anyone that has been through this that can give me some pointers or tips on how to bend the chine logs into place?
Looking for help; I’m building a IMP and having a heck of a time getting pass bending the chine logs into place. Does any one have any advise or tips to help me get pass this point
I am sure the wood folks would have some great ideas in the forum section of the Glen-L site. What is the dimension if the lumber? I know there is soaking and steaming, and I have also done thin 1/4″ laminations in place before. The laminations did exceptionally well and one the lams are all in and cured they stay in form well and if you alternate the end grain, it will be much stronger too. But check wit hthe folks on the forum.
Thanks Dan.
I haven’t finished quite yet still have the fuel system to do then I will be buttoning it up for delivery.
It has really been fun building and seeing the end is very satisfying!
I will post the final pictures in a week or two!
That is one beautiful boat! I like that you took plenty of pictures. I can see that if I were building it, I could and would go to your build to see ANYTHING I wanted in how something went together before I did it. This is a fantastig collection of pictures. Great build. Good fortune on the water!
One of my favorite childhood memories is going out to the lake with my family and boating around. My dad would take us and just throw us over the edge of the boat! It was so fun. I love boating and being able to still do that.
Hello, I really love your boat and would like to ask a few questions. First, how much weight will it handle? Do you sell the plans and how can I get a set. Are they complete plans, including everything you need to know.. I built a hydroplane 50 years ago and loved it. I am 70 now and love to work with wood and have been looking for something like this. How much HP does it need to push 4 heaver set people across the water at a respectable speed, say 40 to 50 mph. Anything you can tell me would be appreciated.
Thanks David
David , I think all the information you need is right here on the glen l site .
Jerry, that is without a doubt the best marriage of good stuff and new stuff I ever saw. I ran an early 1950s Kiekhaefer/Mercury motor (when they were metallic green), on my fishing boat until 1988, when I sold it. As far as I know, that guy is still running it every weekend. Your boat itself is wonderfully worthy of the drive. Don’t forget to post a shot of it at speed (at Cedar Creek?). I’ve been through your town many times making the run from Corsicana to Shreveport.
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Thanks for the tip on the soapy water for sanding. I was going through a lot of paper before I tried your tip, and WOW, does that ever work good.
It was my first but not my last meeting. I left the meeting already looking forward to next year. What an amazing group of friendly, talented people!
What a GREAT article. I really enjoyed reading this. I almost missed it because it went into my spam file and I came close to deleting it. OOOPS.
THANKYOU FOR YOUR INFO,SUPPORT ON MY PREVIOUS EMAILS.KNOWLEDGE ON BOATS IS MY BIG HOBBIE CRAFT ENTITY,SAILING FROM SOUTH AFRICA —NEW YORK
HENDRIK HORN
how much do the plans for a 20 foot long by 8 foot 6 inch wide aluminium chinook cost
The prices are listed in our online store: http://www.boatdesigns.com/19-or-20-Chinook-pilothouse-sportfish-cruiser/products/794/
I have just completed building an aluminum Chinook (20.5 ft version) if anyone wants advice on this build I would be happy to provide them with my experiences during the 8 month build that I have just completed.
I’m looking at the 19 ft. Chinook, aluminum const. I don’t think the plans come with any inside finish or wiring information, how did you deal with any of that? also controls,fuel system,
window glass, interior finish, paint, also some questions on bottom and side plating pattern cutting , welding , would like to talk to you on the phone if possible .
thanks.
Oly.
Hi Rod – just got my plans in the mail. I am really excited to start this process. I would appreciate it if you have some advise before I start the build. Thank
Hi rod I’m thinking of building the aluminum Chinook also would love to hear about your build .
Thx Chris
Hey Chris – I’m half way building the frames, it would be good to connect with someone that is also in the process. Feel free to give me a call at 2014140531. Thanks Dat
Shows what a little thought and ingenuity can get done!
Excellent share, thanks!! 🙂
Nice modified version. Do you have a study plan of thos one?
I had a great time hob nobbing with you in the Ozarks. Keep up the good work. 90 percent of America was built by people like you. Take your time. It will work.
I will get you that powder coater address tonight.
James King
I am interested in what you did to the HF welder to get 35% duty cycle. My email address is jim.isbell@gmail.com phone is 361-238-0711 if you have the time? My last steel boat was a Bruce Roberts 44′ CC Ketch.
After spending so long making Molly B, and launching it in 2014, I am curious. I saw Molly B is for sale in Rochester, NY. Are you taking on a different project?
Best wishes,
Rollyn Trueblood
Sexy! And the boat ain’t bad either.
awesome boats!!!
Dan,
I am in St. Charles, Missouri. I will be glad to make the road trip to admire your hull. The hull is “the thing.”
I am still tempted to weld a boat. It is sooo much work but might be what I need to do.
Hey James, I did not see the comment on the site so I am commenting here again. “Come on down!” Please just call firs and I will make sure I don’t have a load, a cow to work on, a dog to handle, or a neighbor to help. No, I am not that busy, but sometimes it seems like it. I am currently finishing up the construction to the drive turrets. This is time cinsuming and so I have not posted in a week or two. There is a lot of finishing and little to show for it. But my build is in the right “phase” so you can see my mistakes and make better choices on yours…. And I can assure you, the build is worth every bit of the effort. The response to this build has been nothing short of amazing.
Dan
For universal joints try G and G in Omaha, Nebraska. Their products are in every farm store in the Midwest and I would guess the rest of the United States. You may find centrifugal clutches in the same area of the store. http://www.ggmfg.com/
Centrifugal clutches with two sprockets for roller chain are available and as the author states they are necessary. I would suggest operating the motor at 1500 rpm and using the chain drive to gear down the rpm at the propeller shaft. I tried routing the exhaust into the water to quiet the engine and found that you can’t go too deep or the back pressure will stall the engine and make it hard starting. This type of project is undertaken by power mechanics, welding and machine shop students and it results in an excellent power transmission education.
there are some fellas down in Bradenton, Fl. that adapted a B/S to an outboard drive…..pretty kewl….Steve @ Dave Lucas Boatworks and Happy Hour Club! kewl kats.
How about some pictures?
Great story and pictures. The internet translator has some odd vocabulary for boatbuilding, but we can see what is happening.
In the Australian vernacular, “Good on ya, mate!” Will this translte to meaningful Portugese?
Peter Edmonds
Perth, Western Australia
Hi Peter
I used internet to undesrtand what this sentence could mean. I Got it. Thanks
In the last few months, I add to the blog new photos with the last developments.
There’s a couple of ideas in Bueller’s Backyard boatbuilding. If memory serves it was less specific. I would bot worry about a lot of bew fresh air those motors don’t need much to stay cool.
Hi;
I’m a draftman for almost 20 years now and I work mostly on computer at work and occasionally on drafting table to redraw old parts of automated machine and remake old template made by our toolers and the pictures of the drafting room here inspired me a lot !!!
I have my own drafting room at home and I have a lot of old stuff that I use and I was wondering if it is possible to have more pictures, especially the board on the back…
As I can see I thing there is two T square, a complete set Copenhagen Ship Curves, a standard mechanical french curve set, a brush, a standard 45 and 30-60 triangle and an erase shield… On the drafting table there is a couple of spline weight and a ink well and a K&E Drafting Machine like the Paragon model. But I dont know the brand of the drafting table ?
On the other drafting table there is a thru point pencil sharpener, a slide rule and a K&E drafting machine like the other one.
On the flat file cabinet there is a case but not sure what it contain ?
So if it is not too personal can you add more pictures of the drafting room or can you send them to me by email it will be most appreciated.
Keep me posted !
Thank you !
Sean–thank you so much for posting about your beautiful Bullet. Congratulations on a boat well built!
That is a beautiful boat. What weight of glass did you use on the deck? I would like to make one on these one day…
Hey Dan
I used 175g all the way around. You can see the mat when you look closely on the deck.
Hey Ann, I’d be honored if I could see how your build is turning out. Looks like you have passed me if you are/have turned it…
Send me a PM, and we can arrange a time.
Hi Dan,
This is Paul my wife is Ann. I am really enjoying building this boat and it is coming out really nice. I’m in O’Fallon Missouri so I’m not that far away. One of the places I plan on using it is Lake of the Ozarks. If you want to see it that would be really cool. Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner but I didn’t know this was on here. Google images of Tugboat Atlantic Hunter and you will see how I am doing the superstructure.
You can call me if you want 636-634-1503. Thanks Paul.
Thank you for your very informative article.
Regards from İstanbul
Ercüment Aksoy
Good information. Thanks to Mark and Glen-l.
A note for Mark Bronkalla,
Mark,
I am building a Riviera and posing a blog about the progress. You were a leader in the information posted on yours. I have and still use your website and pictures for information on boat building. It is a great resource. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
Don Collier
It`s clear to me you show a grate admiration for detail giving the coverage you bestowed for the love of wood, It`s truly a work of art to see such work.. I can relate
due to my Grandfather was a master carpenter and built riverboats.. Sorry for your finger though, It happens some times.. Keep up the good work!!
Thank you for kind words. The feedback keeps me motivated to do it. Mark Bronkalla did a great job when he built his Riviera. I have looked at his website many times. I am really looking forward to the veneer layer. No one will see the work so far, but the final veneer is what will be seen. I will be fussing with that.
Thank again
Dan I am still kicking on my project. didnt have the heart to cut it up. any updates on your Goliath? can’t seem to post on this, if it double posts mu apologies and pls delete the redundant one…
best
Doug
I put it on a short hold for winter to catch up on farm work. Have returned to it and will oudate all this week. Thanks for caring…
Dan, haven’t heard form the build for a while, I am still kicking on my project. didnt have the heart to cut it up. any updates on your Goliath?
Awesome work Don! I look forward to your posts and want to thank you for the level of detail you are providing.
I have witnessed builder blogs start out then just stop or fizzle out. Hopefully you can keep it up as many will appreciate and benefit from your effort.
Pete Radecki
For some reason unable to access Derek’s images (just returns back to this page), however no problem with Mike’s.
Hi Don I worked on and off on her over a two year period.I could have done it a bit quicker but life just gets in the way
Regards
Greg
Looks absolutely beautiful. How long did it take to build it? I am in the process of building a Riviera.
What a beautiful work of art! I note that she sits slightly above the waterline. Is there still things going into it? Please, please consider doing a short YouTube video if her leaving dock, doing a couple turns, and maybe a reverse. I promise to be one of the viewers… I just hope my Goliath looks as good as your Titan when finished. Thanks for the update!
Great piece. I started building in the 60s, drifted away, but it has become my retirement job/hobby now. I too thank the Glen-L folks, and especially good health to Glen. Though I have never met a-one in person, I consider them close friends. Keep it up.
The Antique and Classic Boat Society – Pacific Northwest chapter wrote an article about about a new CNC technique being used by Edensaw Woods. This technique eleminates scarf and but joint for small craft using plywood. This gets you the longer pieces with a very strong joint? I plan on trying this out on my 13′ Fisherman I’m working on. See February 2016 article. I would have posted a link and could find it. Endedsaw sent me the article by pdf.
Love this design, have wanted to do it or the Aqua Cat since the 70’s! Looks like Jerry is doing an excellent job as well.
Jerry, please continue to update us on your progress. Twin 60’s or 75’s would be most cool.
Looking forward to its finish and a handling report.
Great work!
Jim
I know all the documentation is slowing your progress, I want you to know that it is greatly appreciated. I can’t wait to see the next installment.
Thank you for the feedback. I hope it will be helpful for someone else building a boat.
Great job on a beautiful boat. I like the addition of the outboard motor well. Is this on the plans, or did the builder design it?
No, an outboard isn’t detailed on the plans and this isn’t al alteration that we would recommend.
Like a good wine … it improved with age.Well done!
That is one beautiful example of a Custom Heirloom boat. Just perfect.
What a delightful post, Bill & Linda! Thank you for contributing. Yes, the Squirt was designed by Glen himself in 1954. As for the possible inspiration for the design, I’m not sure. But my father was born and raised in California and was an avid skier so it’s most likely similar to boats he was familiar with at the time.
Great looking boat. I’d love to see some pictures of the inside of the cabin.
I sure enjoyed reading your article on “Displacement” – as I do all your articles; very informative, and always encouraging. Thank you very much!
Hi Greg,
Enjoying your project very much.
I’ve just started my own project, a 15 foot Maine Lobster Boat, over here in Fishguard, West Wales, UK.
Your gallery, as a slideshow, was very encouraging… and at this stage I need all the encouragement I can get.
Thanks for sharing
Cant wait to see the progress on this beautiful boat, like to build one myself some day.
I hope it will help the next person who decides to build. Thank you for the feedback.
Don Collier
Looking forward to your future posts.
Thanks for detailing so well.
So to summarize, the list is:
#10 – Topper – 10 foot Car-top Sailboat
#9 – Tango – 18 foot Sloop
#8 – Glen-L 13 – Simple Rig for Single-Handed Sailing
#7 –Bull’s-Eye – 11′ Stitch & Glue Skiff for Oars, Power or Sail
#6 – Minuet – 15 foot Overnight Sloop
#5 – Glen-L 12 – A Lightweight 12 foot Sloop
#4 – Eightball – 8′ Pram
#3 Glen-L 15 – Roomy 15 foot Family Sloop
#2 – Glen-L 14 – Lively 14 foot Sloop
#1 – Sabotina – 8 foot Sailing Pram
#3 – Eightball – 8′ Pram
#2 Glen-L 15 – Roomy 15 foot Family Sloop
#1 – Sabotina – 8 foot Sailing Pram
Interesting that we have multiple entries for the top three positions and that they aren’t always the same. Looks like the Eightball is #4 and #3. The Glen-L 15 is #3 and #2 and the Glen-L 14 is #2 and then off the list entirely. I’m confused.
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Definitely one of the prettiest boats I have ever seen!
Sounds like sombody discovered Glen-L can design boats worth a heritage, … like an heirloom boat. Great article about a great boat. Thanks Gayl for posting. Hope to be getting back on mine soon. You’ll be the first to know. (FYI- I will NEVER have a facebook account, but thanks anyway.) Cheers all.
I’ve been working on my book project for nearly 20 years I must have been crazy may not live long enough to ever finish it but I still like looking at it
Hope you finish your book! Then maybe you can build a boat and write a book about that!
Gorgeous GL-10!
I love #5 the Tubby Tug (maybe a bit bigger) I’m a fan off “work boats” I live in the Netherlands, don’t know if there are some boats in The Netherlands build from your plans, but I love’m (although I think I never can build one)
Keep up the good work/
Nice Job, everything looks 110%
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I have found personally that its just as easy to go ahead and remove the lower unit and exhaust snout ,as it is to get some help in getting your motor from point a to point b .this also keeps me up to date w doing my impeller on a regular basis and making sure I also change the gear lube every year as well .I hope you find this helpfull .
I loved these Gayle, they make more sense than the actual ones.
I would like to build a Rivieria. Will be following your progress.
I built my first boat over 40 years ago from Glen L plans. I’m working on my 39th boat
now. It’s an addicting hobby!
I would offer one piece of advice. Do something to the boat every day, even if you just sweep up shavings. Too many people skip a day and it becomes a month, a year, or an incomplete. project.
Cheers and good luck, Ray
Beautiful job. Very impressive indeed! Did you construct this from your own plans or are plans available for purchase.
Thank you
Anthony
Anthony, this is the Glen-L Sweet 16 design and we have plans & patterns available here: http://www.boatdesigns.com/Sweet-16/products/763/
Thanks for all the updates Vanlltug–enjoy watching your progress.
Thanks for continuing to keep us updated!
Thanks for posting on our blog. We look forward to hearing about your progress–be sure and keep us updated!
That was electrifying (flux capacitor)!! Sort of thought you might be doing something electric, say a modified Prius drive with solar panels. Really like your idea for the cooler. That should be enough for a steam plant or a Slowpoke reactor.
I’m planning something similar for a cooler, but it will be external to the hull and loop around the keel. Picked up the fittings and cooling pipes from an old 1947 workboat (along with a bunch of other parts), Pipes are in good condition, lots of wall and no visible corrosion considering it’s been used in salt water for 60 years.
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I’m In SW Missouri.
I’m building a Titan Tug out of wood. Interesting to see the differences. Your progress is quite remarkable. I’m at the point right now of installing the battens. Things not bending very easily, probably a lot easier with steel. Have you picked an engine yet?
Yes, the differences are sometimes stark. Bwnding stuff in steel is no easier, just different. I have had to use a couple of chains and come-alongs to help stuff to fit. At least when I make a mistake, I can just weld a stub back on and try it again. I had thought about the Titan (same-same just shorter), but I was looking to fill a local need for a very maneuverable, stable floating, work platform, and am not planing for a “sleep-over” option at this time. AS for the “engine”, yes and no. I think I have a viable plan for the drive system, but I do not want to say any more about it for the time being. Besides, if I told you the one of the largest twists to the plot of this saga, you might not want to read to the end. 😉 Expect more updates in the near future (week or two).
Where a bouts are you located. Just curious. I start a Fred Murphy tug a couple of years back, and then health issues and life got in the way.
Parksville, BC – West coast of BC on the Strait of Georgia. I’m on the blog, about 10 before you
Oh yeah, I remember reading that one and thinking to myself, “boy there is a lot of work in a wooded tug!” 😉 Plane on brother, plane on. I love to see good woodwork.
Good article, fiberglass a wooden boat is expensive, add weight, got to painted and is not a ease task for everybody, need some special tools and equipment plus you need experience with dose quimical components. But when you finish the job…you have a better , more durable, better looking, stronger, more safety and is a new boat for a couple more years to go.
Or men bought the boats without the wife knowing and they named it after her to apologize
Good article, nice to see some truth about fiberglass coatings!
One thing often overlooked and possibly covered in a subsequent article, is the added weight glassing a wooden boat adds!
Can take a lightweight hull and add dozens to hundreds of pounds of extra weight, something often overlooked in the building process.
Thanks for the articles!
Chris
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Great looking boat. I am considering building the Glen-l 10. I am curious if she can handle a wide range of winds i.e. up to 20 knots.
Any other sailing characteristics would be appreciated.
Beautiful photo, may I have your permission to do a painting of it?
Gayle,
I,m in the construction phase of a Tubby Tug, for my grandson. He’s only 16 months old so I’ve got time, but the project is great. I’ve added a round section stern as others have done and it is coming along nicely. The cabin will be removable for a gaff rig sailing arrgt. It is propelled by a built in electric trolling motor for silent running.
Again it is a great project.
With a recent addition of a grand daughter, I’ve another obligation in the future, and am perusing the catalog for just the right boat for her. Later, Bill
That’s so great to hear Bill! You sound like an awesome Grandpa!
Will somebody that is or plans to build a Chinook please contact me ASAP?
Charlie, I plan on getting plans for Chinook soon. Feel free to contact me if you would like to.
Ron
CRUISED THE.SAN JUAN ISLANDS ONCE, YOUR WORDS BROUGHT BACK WARM MEMORIES. MY TUG BUILD IS MUCH SMALLER, LIKE 10 FEET WATER LINE W ELECTRIC POWER. COULD BE YOUR AUXILLIARY! I’M CHEERING YOU ON FROM NEW YORK USA. ENJOYED THE GOOD READ.
Great Project, looking forward to following.
I enjoy receiving all the information from you. I haven’t had time to begin building a boat yet but will probably try it soon as I am about to retire. I have a lot of recycled lumber I might practice on. Think that would be fun. Thanks so much.
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Thank you. I guess I hope you get a few years of fun times on your boat before it rots…
Screw you and your blog, Gayle. I hope your boat rots.
Jeremy, I hope the best for you and that you find true joy in life…
Great article on a fundamental of boat building that is often misunderstood. Anyone building a boat and especially someone considering modifying a design needs to read this clear and concise explanation of displacement and how it relates to the overall project. Thanks for posting it.
One of the better short articles about these two building method. I also appreciated the comments about encapsulation not being a total answer.
It is nice to see an article being able to identify a boat as a throw away. Smaller boats are easy to build and can be done very cheaply if they are not built like a bank vault!
It is nice to see this validated by someone that understands boats! 🙂
Don’t get me wrong, it is nice to have a extremely long lifed boat, but some boats are just for fun and not meant to live forever.
When I raced hydroplanes, they seldom lived for more than a season, two at most. Then on to the next one.
Thanks for the feedback Chris!
Gayle dear, I love looking at most any boat picture. It is nice to know what people are building. Thanks for this listing. You may be interested to know I’ve owned two boats (27′ Chris Craft cabin cruiser, 19′ foot Bayliner inboard), built three hot air balloons and owned dozens, built one hovercraft and presently own three and concerning your list, I seem to be drawn to that beautiful Strip Planked Canoe!
I you epoxy in the morning when the wood is rapidly warming bubbles will form and air expands and leaves the wood but if you epoxy when the wood is at a stable temperature or cooling the problems with bubbles is much less. I have built a Tubby Tug and am currently building an 18 foot electric boat.
The main reason for the bubbles is the resin is being applied in too thick of a layer, and if you are waiting hours for it to go off, you are using too slow of a hardener for the temperature.
Once you get the layer thinner and use a hardener matched more closely the the temperature conditions, you will not have the problem of bubbles.
Saw your post on here with Lake Shasta area mentioned. I’m in Durham (near Chico), when you get this boat done I would be very interested in seeing it. I’m thinking about building a drift boat myself. I use a sit on top fishing kayak currently. If you would be interested in a paddle day I can come up and meet you at Whiskeytown or Shasta.
Shawn
One technique I learned years ago working in a boat yard from a fellow who was an expert at doing fiberglass lay ups, was very simple. Most people attempt to put too much resin on at one time.
If you want a perfect coat each time, do not use a brush or roller, rather use a squeegee.
As you squeegee the resin over the cloth or mat, you keep a firm pressure on everything just wetting the material. Yes, the fiber will readily show through, but as you do follow up applications, it builds up the resin and covers the fabric.
Not only does this make a bubble free surface, it makes for a much stronger finished product.
Does it take a bit longer, yes.
Does it give you a much better end result, YES!!
Does a roller have its place, sometimes, but unless you are doing a huge area, the squeegee is the best way to go. Even if you use a roller, it is best to follow up with a squeegee to level the surface and make the bubbles go away.
As was pointed out to me, too thick a resin layer is not desirable or as strong as a thinner bubble free layer. When you apply resin, making multiple bubble free layers will give you a superior surface every time.
When fiberglassing with cloth don’t use the tape unless absolutely necessary but cut the cloth on a 45 degree (bias cut). Yes you still have to sand the edges and where you overlap it but it will lay flat and not pucker or pull away from the wood. It works well on fairly sharp keels.
Hoop to see it in europe soon !!!!!!
What a wonderful boat building story by a wife and husband team. I suspect that the building experience also helped build a strong marriage.
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Hope to be there. My boat is the Malahini built by Sam W.
Is plans for this boat available?
Of course the plans for this Glen-L design are available. Just go to the Glen-L.com home page or just to the top of this page, hover your pointer over “Online Catalogs” and when the dropdown appears click on the “Boat Plans Catalog – 300 Boats You Can Build” link. Then you can find the Sabotina design in either the Alphabetic List or the “Sailboats” links.
Is drawing w/dimensions available for this boat and if so where can I get the plans for it?
Thanks, Emil
Trying to build chinook boat. Did you use the 3X2 angle? and what did you use for the center of the bulkhead?
I have to say , that is very inspiring. I believe youv’e done a heck of a job. thats the most interesting boat build iv’e enjoyed viewing. Can’t wait to see the rest of the build. Makes me want to tackle building an Atlantic Skiff of my own.
Thank You And Thank Glen L
DGLane
Hello Mr. Boller,
I am considering building the Eureka using sandwich foam construction (core foam). What type of construction did you use on your boat? Also, can the boat be trailered around? I would like to leave it in the back yard when not in use and make short trips to the Carolina coast from Charlotte, NC (300 miles).
Thank you for your response.
Regards,
Wayne
To save money and time, I used an existing hull for the basis. That is why it is labeled “Eureka (modified)”. The hull is 30′ instead 25′, and is a modified V, planing hull instead of a round bottomed displacement hull. Materials: original hull is solid FG, without the chalky filler layers which have been used by many commercial companies. Decks are laminations of mahogany plywood (3/4″) to allow the curved shape for quick drainage of water, glassed, all using epoxy for adhesive. Pilot house and forward cabin material is 3/4″ marine plywood with glass. Re trailering: this one requires a commercial, over the road semi to move, plus highway permits for “wide load” and special routing due to height when loaded. Dry weight is not that much at 8,000+ lbs.
Hope this helps
RB
Gayle
Rudy sounds like a remarkable person and I hope his friendship with your father overcomes his loss of his wife.
Regards John
Hi Brian & Jeremy,
Beautifully finished craft, could you advise me on the completed height on a trailer, and wheel size on the trailer please.
Frank Debooy
Hi Gayle, About the rig, I tend to question the names you’ve given, but maybe we call things by different names her in the UK. Firstly as the foremost of the 2 masts is shorter than the aft mast, the vessel is properly schooner rigged. The foreward shorter mast is the foremast and the taller aft mast is the mainmast. The sail on the foremast is the foresail and the Bermuda sail on the taller mainmast is the mainsail. Of the headsails the aftermost one is a slef tacking boomed staysail, the foreward most, bowsprit mounted, sail is a jib (and could be named the foreward jib) and the upper most sail is a flying jib. Hope I’m not being pedantic. Great cruising rig for short handed sailing.
Beautiful boat. Looks like outstanding workmanship. What lake are you cruising on? Any problems with Arizona dryness shrinking the wood?
Kudo’s to you !!!! Wish that was my boat.
Love the boat design and you did an outstanding job.
John Howard (no not that one)
SV Horizon
Okinawa Japan
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Gayle this is first time I have blogged and will only be doing with your site. Regards John
Well John, we are very honored that you are using our blog! Thank you…
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Jacob,
I would like to know more about building boats with foam core fiberglass panels.
Is there a book or website you could recommend? Bronze screws are way to costly!
Thanks in advance,
Pat Freeman
Hi Ugo,
I am from Varna ,Bulgaria,I am also building Kodiak,I am at stage deck and outfitting,
Your boat look excellent,please device how the boat is performing under sails and under engine,in rough sea and every thing you can share from your experience
I have sent photos to Glen and I am expecting soon to be published.
My best regards
Todor Adamov
Varna,Bulgaria
You mention building a stitch and glue boat, have you tried painting over epoxy.
Kurt
Painting over epoxy is done quite often. Never heard of any problem associated with it.
I no longer appreciate motor boats; have a 24’Vodka that hasn’t seen water in three years.
Retired now, not enough people to crew a large sail.
what I am looking for is a day sailer I can handle alone, or with my spouse on the Great Lakes (Huron).
Roy, you might take a look at our Glen-L 13 or even the 15 if you’d like a bit more room: http://www.boatdesigns.com/Sailboats/departments/12/
The St. John’s Prep Engineering Club just completed construction of a Glen-L Sissy Do maritime skiff. They used “an exterior-grade latex-based enamel-finish paint. More than just being a mouthful to say, the paint is much easier to work with than oil-based enamel, durable, easier to apply than poly, and relatively inexpensive. We’re applying a high-gloss on the outside of the boat and a low-gloss on the inside.”
Read their story here
That figures! lol I was working in NC for a year, just got back in Dec.
Sounds like you’re making good progress. Have you found any real difficulties with either the plans or the build?
Thom
Hi Tom,
I was wondering how your build is coming along? I’m finally back in Florida and want to start work on the boat.
I’m in Tampa. Where are you building? I’d love to see how it’s coming along.
Thom
Hello Thom, I live in Blounts Creek, NC It’s a small town near Washington or Greenville, NC As of this point I’m finished skinning the bottom and am about to start fiberglassing it. I will be posting some pictures as I move along. Hope your build goes well.
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Andrew, Where did you get that windshield? It looks very nice.
Interesting! This construction method was popular in the 1960s and 70s, particularly with firefighters who built their boats in the station yards in between call outs, it should properly be called FERROCEMENT and never concrete as contains only the finer range of aggregates. It is as stated a labour intensive construction method and requires highly skilled plastering teams to make a fair finish. However, the reason for its drop in popularity over the past 30 years is less to do with the cost of the hull, which is relatively small percentage of the total build cost, but more to do with difficulty and cost and availability of comprehensive insurance for Ferrocement boats and residual resale value compared with other methods of construction, based upon dubious total loss claim for badly built hulls. Well built boats, such as the Peter Ibold Endurance range built by WIndboats in Wroxham England, are still in active service 40+ years after launch, are extremely fair, incredibly strong and durable, require less maintenance than other forms of construction, and often of considerably less weight than many traditionally built wooden or steel craft of similar design and dimensions.
If there is a fault with Ferrocement it is generally with the builder and design, not the material or method, but then this surely applies just as much to other boat building methods.
Hi, Gayle, Can you please tell me where Andrew’s earlier posts (1 to 8) are to be found?
Thanks and best regards,
Ian Stewart
Ian, (and everyone else),
Just type in “A Perth Riviera” (without the quote marks) in the search box at the top of this page and it will take you to a page with links to all of Andrew’s blog posts.
Thanks for checking in on the Glen-L Blog!
G’day Justin, I’m looking at building one myself and was wondering if you know of anyone in melbourne building one as I would love to have a chat and possibly a look???
Another item that comes to mind is a handheld or fixed VHF radio. These are relatively inexpensive but priceless in some situations. In emergencies you can call for help as well as communicate with nearby boats or commercial traffic.
Andrew–thank you so much for another excellent post. We really appreciate that you’ve taken the time to share with everyone the specific details of your beautiful Riviera build!
Thank you James for the additional tips!
I save the caps from Tide and ERA detergent and use them for epoxy measures.
I put out three caps. Sometimes I can use two green caps and one white. I fill them appropriately then pour the epoxy into a paint mixing container. Then I pour the single hardener. Then mix with a wood paint stirrer. Sometimes I use a paint stirrer on an electric drill. The drill is the cheapest I can get from Harbor Freight. I can clean out the detergent caps with a paper towel and reuse. Sometimes I clean up with vinegar.
Happy to hear about the new law…about owning a boat for every US citizen..
I email to you..just to know when will you offer a holiday sale boat plan this holiday season….
Thanks, rodel
Not a US citizen.
Funny, Rodel! If you’re on our Newsletter list, you’ll know about all our sales and offers.
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Aloha Gayle,
I’ve been in the industry since 1953 and have seen a lot happen in the industry. There are exciting changes happening everyday. Most of them contribute to the quality of the boating industry. Conversation and discussion of new ideas through the “Blog” is a good information tool. I think you have made a good move and I expect you to be a leader in your part of the industry for another 60 years.
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Hi Thomas, I just finished making the frames and started setting them on the building frame. It’s a slow process. Good luck
The skeg and the strips on the bottom would scare me to death for drifting. Both could set up a condition where you would “stick” or turn the boat on rocks if you are riding down a chute anyway but straight. All the river boats I’ve ever owned or built had a minimum of gluvit or uhmw on the bottom. flat slick and easy to slide.
Just my prefernce but more than once I’ve felt, heard and sometimes even watched the floor flex while sliding over a ledge on the Upmqua or rock on the Deschutes. Then, looking at the bottom when its out of the water and seeing the groove or scratch on the gluvit or the plastic sheet convinced me a long time ago that drift boats need two thing to handle well and work through shallow rocky rapids: chines and a flat slick bottom. you might even find that the boat would row better in flat water with at least 3/4 of chine cutting the path for you on each side.
i dont understand what you mean needing chine as in 3/4 chine cutting the water. i want to build one of these but have never built a boat before
I am a boat nut, always have been, always will be. I have a commercial nav ticket and have built and rebuilt several boats in my life but what I find so remarkable about this site is the passion I keep finding. I just love that. I feel Rudy and Gayle are both extremely inspirational to me and keep making me want to go out and do another. Kudos to Gayle for keeping her dads dream alive.
John–Thank you for your kind comments and I’m glad to hear our site is an inspiration!
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It will never get off the ground . The wheels are too small.
Glad you like it Joseph!
You clarified an important principle in boat building. Readers and amateur boat builders should know well that enlarging a boat is not simply a matter of increasing lengths. Thanks for the article.
I could almost out-run a small outboard while rowing in that little Pram.
Dick
Bruce,
As for all of our designs, the Bill of Materials (which is a complete list of all the materials needed to build a particular boat) is linked on the description page of every boat on our website. The direct link to the Bill of Materials for the Biscayne 18 is here: Biscayne 18 Bill of Materials.
I am courious as to how many board feet of lumber to make the Biscayne 18
thanks Bruce
Great pics. I love this boat. And recently help a friend build Sabotina. I should organize some of my pics, and share them.
Thanks !
I’ve used a similar method using a wall paper steamer linked to the drainpipe on Malaysian Kauri – it worked brilliantly. I can’t claim the applause though. I found the method on someone else’s post on the Glen-L forum pages!
i think the trick is to try and find straight wood at those lengths!
I’ve been looking at building one of your Mahogany boats for some time now. I’ve caught the Glen L Bug. I’ve settled on the Riviera for my First boat. Purchased the study plans and am reading the book Boatbuilding with Plywood. Thanks for bringing some amazing Boat designs to market for the armature Boatbuilder. Can’t wait to start mine.
David, that’s so great to hear. We’re happy to be here and able to serve all of you creative DIY folks!
I love the looks of this boat. I am reasonably competent with wood working but have never tried anything as difficult as this. Apx. how hard was it to build, total cost, less the motor and apx. how many man hrs. to complete. Also I have never worked with fiberglass.
Thank you for a response,
Ray
I agree that there are lots of life events and challenges that can slow or halt progress if we let them. I liked the remember when article. I too see alot of changes in my lifestyle from just a few years ago. Some I like and some I don’t. I think I still hate computers. I am learning to live with them in the house. Rich
I found a set of blue prints for a boat by Glen L. The # is 58, # opc 654. Can you tell me anything about these prints? The have a yellowish tint to the paper drawen on, than you.
Brenda
Hi Andrew,
I would love to come see your build too. I also live in Perth, and have recently purchased the plans to build a Ski King.
My number is 0468 419 473
Cheers
Andy
Hi Bob
Just love your Boat.
I am building a Biscayne 18 Foot Boat.
Can you please tell me where you got the Steering Wheel from?
Kind Regards
Harry
Nice jod on the blog site and now I have another boat to build out of your Top 10 LIst.
Mark,
I live in Surprise, AZ. Where do you get your marine plywood?
Hi Erich,
The best source in the valley is “City Plywood”. He has numerous sizes (thickness) and has resonable prices. You can get 3/4″ from Woddworkers Source (which is where I buy my hardwood) but it is expensive (~$100 a pop).
Hope this helps. BTW – ck out my other build on the Cruisette page.
As a first time builder, I agree
Thank you very much for the e-mails you send. I must truley confess you are keeping and making stronger the fires in me to get this boat I want alive. Thanks! Because of your encourangement I have made up my mind to purchase all materials from you because of your honest interest and work for your business. Good companies like the one you have are very hard to find. Your efforts make the sun shine a little brighter upon Glen-L. THANKS
You’re welcome Anthony! You’ve made my day–thank you very much for you kind comments…
The addition of silica is an axcellent idea. I place the mixture into a zip lock bag and then cut a corner off. A bead of exact size can then be squeezed out just like decorating a cake. With the amount of compound carefully controlled clean up after is very easy.
Great timing for me as I now have my boat based on the Ski King design turned over and remembering those juctions that could not be filled (or fillieted) in the upside down orientation – it all runs out!
So next step will be basd on Glen’s nots (paper) – thanks
Robert Rowe – Goolwa South Australia
As a former Columbia dealer and owner I would suggest that the typical AC or AB would be risky because of the possibility of a void in the vicinity of hte “tang” which is welded to the rudder post (vertical shaft). Regardless of the grade PW used, I strongly uggest increasing the size (area of the tang ) because they sometimes “twist” themselves through the rudder causing failure. Made large enough the possibility of voids is negated, so i fyou are willing to spend more for the metal tang then the less expensive PW will probably be satisfactory. As a minimum i would triple the area of the tang.
Gary L. Sage Sr. we looking on put a gathering in the rockies Down south of you at Lake Powell we are shooting for the year 2014 we will be uppdating the info on the gather on my site http://www.facebook.com/Home.Made.Boat.Building and on the Glen-l forum http://www.glen-l.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20840
wow… i’m blown away by your skill. glad to see you took the time with the details. i read that this boat cost $40K and 12000 hours, i was curious what % of the cost and time was just the inboard?
Thanks for the note. The engine alone was about $8K and then all the assorted things like a shaft, custom mounts, custome exhaust tips, etc. I guess that about $10 all together. Actually my out of pocket costs were about $60K. Now if I can sell it I can move on to another project!
Steve
Hi Steven,
Dave Burn from Australia here.
Ou5t of curiosity abou thow many hours did it take to build miss Chris? I’d love to do one myself.
Dave
Hi Steven,
Dave Burn from Australia here.
Ou5t of curiosity abou thow many hours did it take to build miss Chris? I’d love to do one myself. I’m having trouble with this captcha system sorry if you have this question more than once
Dave
It took me about three years part time. I estimate that it would be about 10 months full time. There is a drone video of the finished boat at my web page.
Hull has 3 coats of epoxy, 1 layer of fiberglass and 3 more coats of epoxy
Hi Ron,
I live in Ottawa and plan on building a Chinook. Was hoping to start last fall but had to push it off so looking at starting this spring/summer.
I purchased the study plans and am working on some cost estimates for materials. What type of wood did you use? did you purchase any supplies from Glen-L or locally?
were there any issues with the build?
thanks
Doug
please help: where Barry purchased the brackets for the boat cover? i cannot find anything like them in Australia …thanks Ron
Miss Peggy and I enjoyed Miss Lily at the gathering in September, charming young lady. Did Bill tell you she did some of the driving from Oklahoma (according to Kent). We hope many more folks will attend in 2013. TOM in Mississippi
Hello! Is this our “Boat in the Box” Tom??? Nice to hear from you! I think about you and Peggy often…
Wonderful comments everyone! Great poem Julie–looks like this one really struck a chord…
Loved the George boat-building poem.
I recall my recent efforts , helping my friend build Sabatina, in that cold Maine garage of his. An exciting and bonding experience for both of us.
Thanks so much for the lovely presentation of the boats, the guys and my little poem. A thrill for me. Lots of fun all around.
Sincerely
Julie George
Muskegon, MI
thank you for the new year
Awesome!!
I like the idea of assembling the bow and stern transoms without the plywood attached in order to fit the stringers and then apply the plywood later. I think the Kreg jig may be useful to hold the frames together until the plywood is installed!
Hi there,
I have just been reading your blog, my brother and I have been discussing building the 19′ barrelback. I live in Melbourne is wondering where bouts in Australia you live?
Regards Rich
You can change the rig, but you’ll need to keep the CE as designed–we don’t provide details for these changes. It looks like Rudy had 3 jibs or foresails. Not sure.
Thanks Gayle! Those pics of Derek’s Lodestar build are breath taking. I hope I’ll be able to attempt somethign that large – funny how a 55′ boat on paper doesn’t seem that big until you see life like photos of the boat in near completion with a full sized person on it’s deck, and in the hull. Wow.
Wonder if the Lodestar could be schooner rigged… Anyways, you said the two forward sails are the Jib and stay sail? So does that mean Rudy’s boat had 3 jib sails? or is it a jib sail and two stay sails at the forward end of the boat?
Wow… Just… wow..
It’s amazing what you can do when you set your mind and heart to it. I plan on building the Lodestar for me and my family. I do have a stupid question – that boat looks like it’s a schooner rig, correct? What are the three front sails called (I guess where the jib is or is supposed to be)? I’m new to boat building and sailing for that matter and I’ve never seen that kind of forward sail configuration before.
Not a stupid question! The Lodestar is a Masthead ketch double headsail rig with club-footed jib. The mizzen is the aft sail, the mainsail is in the center and the forward are the jib topsail and staysail. Have you seen Derek Penney’s Lodestar and all the photos? It’s here. Enjoy!
Several folks on a multihull boatbuilders list reccomended vinegar as a solvent for uncured epoxy.
I haven’t had reason to test but if it works it would be immensely better than some of the traditional solvents listed.
Tom
Beautiful boat, great job.
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Good morning , every body.
I start my first boat in May , a 11 foot Bull’s Eye.and I;m very excited on this.
When I have some photos I’ll send.
Thanks Fernando from Curitiba – Brazil.
I and a friend built the Power Yak. We altered the design so as to permit the power system to be raised up into a well so now the boat only needs 6 inches of water to float it. With the Minn Kota raised I still have headway and reverse. I use a rudder off the stern for stearage. The boat has a bow light and a removable stern light for evening cruises. The boat also has a raised coming completely around the cockpit.
There is sufficient floatation that hull will not sink with 500 lbs aboard and one deep cycle lead acid battery. The boat can hold two batteries just aft of the rear seat and one in the front by adding a tray there. The boat has been underway in water with 12 inches or more of waves and I had no issues – that is as long as you keep yourself dead centre. Two hours and 15 minutes only ran the one battery down 35%. GPS says the boat does more than 5 mph at full speed with two big guys on board.
Nice tugs down under! Ken–beautiful job!- I was wondering if you could post some inside pics of the sleeping accomodations and wheelhouse?? I am dying to see what it looks like inside- im doing a Fred Murphy…
Nice job…that is an interesting hull layup technique. How is it done.
Nice job ! What motors are you using and what is the top speed?
Nice job ! I am thinking about building one myself
What motors are you using and what do you think the top speed is?
Two Honda 90. 65 km/h.
Hi Mike, your Ultra Pierre looks great ! I want to build the Ultra Pierre in the Phillippines Islands. I was wondering how you were using the steel on the bottom ? Thanks Tim in Seattle
Hi Tim,
Been Steel Head fishing, so away from the computer for a while.
Basically the design is an ultra Pierre with Oak Frames and Plywood sides. My variation was to remove all bottom structure and replace with a 3/16 Steel bottom and transom. Steel knees and lower skirt (essentially a garboard I guess) to attach the Ply to were welded in. Built unconventionally, right side up beginning with the bottom. All done with AC stick welding.
I have some pic’s posted showing some of the design details. Drop me a line and I’d be happy to share additional details with you if you have any questions I can answer.
Regards,
Mike
Not surprised the Zip came in high on the list, even if it was called a 14′ runabout.
I was looking at the photo of Pat Wilening’s zip and cant see any engine well. Looked on the Glen-L web site and can’t see any there either. Would love to see more photos of Pat’s interior if any are available.
Keith–there are a ton of photos in the Zip Gallery. Click on “Boatbuilding Galleries”. Hope that helps!
I have looked at the Zip photos extensively but unfortunately that particular boat does not show any interior photos. I thought you might have some in your files or could contact the owner.
Keith, there are hundreds of photos in the gallery and many of interior cockpits–Ted Gauthier alone has 260 photos! Be sure and click on the thumbnail photos to see all the others in each gallery: http://boatbuilders.glen-l.com/zip-design/
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Did you fiberglass your boat at all?
Awesome craft and beautifully done, sir. The Miss Chris is a future venture for me as I would like to produce one as close to the 1929 Chris Craft as possible. I grew up riding in one and staring at a second one awaiting restoration in a barn. Bob Clayton of Conesus, NY bought my childhood craft from my father in the early 1990’s and I have not seen “Screwed Together” since. I am awaiting my workshop to be built and then it is a project-go. If you have any points of advice/lessons learned based on the build rather than instructions, please e-mail them to bullrodman80@gmail.com. The hind-sight of others serves me as foresight. 🙂 Thank you sir and again, Bagheera is a beauty!
great idea!,but wheres my sea knight? lol
I can’t wait to view the news letters every month, I want to build a Pickle Fork one day,That would be my plan…
Keep up the GREAT work Glen L is tops….
It looks like I missed a great event. I hope it never happens again.
Some really great looking usable boats. I’ll never get over the kick I get out of looking at Boats!
Especially hand made Boats.
Hope to see y’all next year.
Dick
NICED PROJECT
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I need a mast for a sweet 16 tug. Anyone know where to purchase?
Try dwyermast.com
great pictures& vidios have followed the gatherings for 3yrs or more
would love to meet you all,great forum,many hours spent following.
thank’s frank-h
Hi All! I am truly sorry I could not attend your “Gathering” this year it looks like it was a lot of fun!! Have ever considered having three such events in the West, Mid West, and East? Tennessee is a long way from Northern Idaho…
Maaaaannnnnn, did I miss bein’ there…Had a good reunion (94 people out of 195 showed up), but my mind was on the G6…Loved the neat pitures….Dwain, the SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII KIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGG…..
Great pictures from a super group of people and the best boat building site on the web.
Thanks!
Al Neill
Kanata, Ont
Canada
Looked like a fun gathering. One day in retirement we shall make the
trip and join in.
I must say that yellow hydroplane (photos 17 & 18) with the
6 cylinder Mercury “TOWER OF POWER“ , must be
an absolute rocket ship!.
Best Regards
Reid Lowe
Queensland
Australia
Alan–I’d love to see photos of your boat as I’m sure others would as well. Let me know if you need help posting a Gallery…
Would agree 100% if you never intend to remove the appendage. My reference at the time was for smaller fast boats. Having to remove a keel/skeg one time convinced me that bedding them in mastic is preferable.
Hi Gayle,
Thank you for some great images of wonderful boats, The builders have done a fantastic job building their boats. The one which captured my attention is the Glen-L 17.
All the very best.
Christopher
Hi Guys what material did you use to build your splended crafts that you two guys have built & shown the rest of us how it’s done to perfection.
Hi Darren. Sorry for the late reply – haven’t had access to this site for some time.
Our tugs were built from Tasmanian Oak and Marine Ply, finished with International Paints except for the Royal Blue on the hull which if memory serves me right is Noreglass. The outer hull was sprayed, the rest put on by roller.
I have a captioned Picasaweb album set up for this build. You can find it at
https://picasaweb.google.com/100979049839058959925/KittitasFlyFishingPramConstructionSequence#
(make sure to copy and paste the entire URL)
pc
what about salt water, are they lighter than fiberfglass
What about the rust factor ? Mostly in salt water, Is there a version that uses less HP?
Rust isn’t an issue if the boat is properly finished. You can use less hp on this design…
I had a pram like that one and fly fished all over Washington state in it.
Great little fishing boat. So easy to handle and maintain.
I could almost out-run a small outboard while rowing in that little Pram.
Dick
Send me more information about this boat
Drift Pram info: https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=738
Tom,
You may have cavitation issues with the skeg right up against the transom. It should be 2′ forward of the transom…
Thanks very much Gayle. I am a novice at this and don’t understand your comment. What is skeg? Can you explain a little more about what I have done worng?
The skeg is the appendage on the bottom of the boat that runs along the keel.
Thanks Gail.
I will fix this on the boat and put a note in my post about it.
Ray,
Great build! Do you mind if I stop by sometime and check it out? I’m in Springfield, but, get up your way quite often. Where are you docking her?
Greg Kelso
Sorry, I did not see your message until today. If you are in the area please give me a call @847-691-5110. She is at Waukegan Port District on Lake Michigan.
Ray
i didn,t get that issue as my computer was down i,would like to print it so to have a full series.
Raymond,
You can print this post from right here!
please send build your dream boat #12 in the build your dream boat series.
You know what would be great with plans besides Patterns? Table of offsets or the actual dimensions of at least the Frame, Molds,. If I had any one of these it would be so easy for me to place in my CAD/CAM program an machine almost all pieces, even the hull if the planking is plywood. I love your boats but I can do more with offsets than patterns.
Yes, Gerald has done a beautiful job! Glad to hear you enjoyed our site Rod!
Hi Gayle,
Love your site. Gerald Hurst just sent me the email with link to your site. Just wanted to say thank you for posting his special video and it is truly a special gift when you can capture a “once in a lifetime event”. Gerald and his daughter Barrie deserve much recognition for creation of this beautiful masterpiece.
Cheers,
Rod
Thank you for posting the photos Wayne. You’ve done a beautiful job! Congratulations to you…
Hi!! beutifull boats, do you have a Vessel yacth boat?
Regards
Fernando
I really enjoy reading your blog, it’s very informative…..MORE POWER……
beautiful work!!!
going to post on facebook for many to see….
Looks fantastic. Well done Roberta
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I neglected to add information about my actual tach. Mine has a selector dial on the back to set the correct number of poles or cylinders (different manufactures have different descriptions). Reading the instructions for my tach I set it to 6. There is a tiny adjustment screw on the back allowing one to fine tune the indicated RPM’s. I suspect many tach’s will be fine out of the box but mine was off. It is also helpful to have a second person calling out (loudly since the motor will be running) the frequency measurements while the other person adjusts the tach. Obviously it is best to do this at rest and across several RPM ranges to get it dialed in closely. Try not to max out the motor’s RPM range when doing this as it’s not good to do this when there is no load on the motor; but RPM’s higher than idle are desireable. I think the maximum RPM I calibrated to was about 3000…even then I only held the motor at that range for about 20 seconds. I did all of my adjustment at the dock with a helper.
Bill–thanks for the additional comments. I’ll add them to the article…
Thanks for another inspirational story, Gayle. I also have pretty much found that where there’s a will, there’s a way and if someone else can do something, so can I. A book said I could build a log home, so I did. Now I’m building a steamboat including the engine and the boiler, all from scratch. (I would have built a Glen-L boat if you had one for steam.) Anyway, I’m appreciating our relationship, such as it is.
Mark from Minnesota (and Florida)
Mark–Great comments! One of our builders also built his own steam engine for use in our Harbormaster: http://www.glen-l.com/designs/special/harbormaster.html
Hey Guys, great job on the boats 🙂 beautiful paint job!
I do a video podcast that deals with showing people how to do some basic repairs and maintenance on their boats (fiberglass, paint, brightworks, etc).. This Fall I am giving some consideration to organizing a small boat build with the thought that there may be a few viewers that would be interested in building along.
On my end the entire process would be put on video and avail online for others to view. I’ve looked over the materials list for this boat but would like some actual info from you on what the “real world costs” turned out to be.
I’m pretty certain that this particular boat would be out of the price range for many people to build along, but I also think that there would be a large group of people that would be very interested in watching the process of this being built. This is probably one of the nicest looking designs for it’s size that I’ve come across..
If inclined, please email me with any info you would be willing to share.
Thank you!
~Andy
Andy–that sounds like a very interesting project! As far as cost to build, I don’t have any feedback at this point. It really varies depending on material costs in your area and of course, any cabin extras you choose. There is a bill of materials online from which you can determine wood costs for the hull: http://www.glen-l.com/designs/hankinson/sweet16-pw-bom.html
Keep us updated!
Iggy–awesome photos and boat! You really did a beautiful job and we appreciate that you posted a gallery for others to see your work. Thank you!
Thanks dear,i realy appreciate all the lessons so far. The bow design is realy important for a faster boat. Is this also aplicable to a catamaran? Also planning boats always have its bow raised out of water when speeding.
Cats are a whole other subject. The boat before and after plane would be the concern…
Awesome Job
Hello
My name is Uri Fisher.
I admired the construction pictures.
I have a question about pictures 3 and 4
The white color in Figure 3 What is it?
How did you get the result on Figure 4?
Thank you.
Uri
The white is System 3 epoxy fairing compound. The planking is 1/4″X4″ mahogany attached with System 3 epoxy adhesive, covered with fiber glass cloth and System 3 epoxy resin.
Great topic. I love discussions of boat design and always thankful to hear designers share their opinions and experience on the finer points of boat design.
Thank you, Mr. Witt.
Rick
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It’s possible to sail the Bull’s=Eye and not get any water over the side (in <10K breeze).., but it gets boring….Saling in 12-15KT you can get the boat moving quite smartly, but you have to react to gusts very quickly or the gunwhale wants to submerge with only ablout 30 degrees heel. Can't bail, steer and handle mainsheet w/only 2 arms!
I've ordered a self-bailer that bloggers claim works quite well on less-than-one-design planing speedsters. Its a Seasure Super Sucker. Also getting a tiller extension, since cannot hike out full extent without dropping the tiller. Ordered direct from an UK sailing store, at big savings. Hope to get the gear installed while there are still good windy afternoons on Birch Bay! Having a great time with the little sailboat……Glen-L Rocks!
Rick, we built the Bull’s-Eye here and I don’t recall having that problem. I assume the water is coming over the side when you’re heeling? You might want to ease up…
[…] Building Form I started looking for boat plans a few years before I finally found Glen-L. I loved the hull design of the Yukon but I didn’t think there was enough room to live aboard so I stretched the hull to just under 40 feet. I was also concerned about the living space of the supper structure on the Yukon. I looked around Glen-Ls’ site and settled on the Argosy for the super structure. I bought the plans for the Argosy because I liked the raised pilot house and thought I could increase the living space by building what they call a “Wide Body” Trawler. I eliminated the walk around decks which increased the inside width to almost a 12 feet beam inside the saloon. I still had about a 12 inch raised deck outboard of the saloon which I could use as a walk around with a hand rail atop the saloon so I didn’t have to go through the saloon to move fore and aft. I scaled the raised pilot house down to fit on the lengthened Yukon hull and started building. I used Parkers’ Cold Molded plywood construction techniques to provide additional strength and to amplify the bulbus bow and reverse curve of the hull. I also lengthened the stem about 10 inches to provide more free board forward hopefully resulting in a dryer riding boat. I used rough sawn, air-dried, vertical grain, clear douglas fur which I had shipped in from Oregon. This was all full dimension lumber so all the structural members were a little extra heavy, also for additional strength. With my swim platform and bow pulpit, my LOA ended up around 45 feet. Overall, a little bigger than I intended but a vessel with very spacious accommodations.Read this blogger’s previous post here. […]
Thanks Gayle, I appreciate the reply.
Erik–just beautiful! This looks like a first class boat as you’ve really done nice work. How much bigger did you make the Yukon? Please post more–we’d love to see more details! Thank you…
Tony–thank you for posting. You did a beautiful job and I’m sure you receive many compliments on your work! Congratulations to you!!!
Looking really good mate. I think most people would ‘keel’ over if they realised the ‘shed constraints’ you are working with! Very impressive, Gav.
Looking good Justin! Thanks for keeping us updated. The Forum guys are right–you’ll have a lot of pressure from the longitudinals to bring your frames true. I do understand the desire for perfection though–just don’t let it be the enemy of “good enough”! Keep up the good work!
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My inglish is very bad, and sorry.
Yo tengo casi terminado el Glen 10, velero para venderlo y un bote de 16′ para mi uso
en paseo y pesca, tambien es the Glen-L
( NO me acuerdo el nombre )
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Rod Hughes · My own boss , what i say goes yeh !!!! at Retired/Disabled
I have found that movable extension tables handy when using the large shop equipment so I don’t have to have some body catch the material as it comes out of the machine.
Great choice – i just recently completed my own “Ski King” here in New Zealand. I stuck to the standard length and still managed to install a Ford “Grenada” 3 Litre V6 coupled to a Paragon gear box – was a tight fit but it all came out OK.
The Ford V6 units are still reasonably available in this country as they were extensively utilised in Hamilton jet boats, fully marinised with wet exhausts, heat exchangers etc.
The Ski King operates well with this installation – very responsive with great acceleration.
I changed the rear deck configuration by closing it over with a separate rear cockpit and an engine hatch fitted flush with the deck – turned out OK . The deck is fully planked with mahogany. Good luck with your project – cheers JH
Hi John
I can’t tell you how pleased I was to view your post. I have been in contact with other builder of Ski Kings and some have had a problem with space to fit the engine, that fact that you have used the same engine that I have bought proves I should have no problem fitting it especially as I have an extra 1ft (30cm) in the length of the engine bay. Also good news as to the performance I can expect. Do you have any photographs?
Regards
Alan
Hi Alan
Recent pics have been posted on the gallery which may be of interest to you – shows finished product and in particular the somewhat tight fit at the front of the engine installation. I had to move the back of the seat forward a couple of inches but it still left plenty of cockpit space. You should be OK with respect to having lengthened the hull by an extra ft.
With respect to the engine installation I had to utilise a bell housing for an auto transmission and make an adapter plate up to fit the Paragon gear box – this tended to make the whole package somewhat long (could’nt find a suitable adapter housing in this country). Engine set up is at 12 degrees – all works well.
Cheers
John H.
Thank you for your kind comments Carlos!
The photos and video of Rick’s boat are great but seeing it in person makes you realize how truly remarkable it is. If it was the only boat at G5 it would have been worth the trip just to see it! But combined with all the others made for a truly memorable experience. Thanks Rick!
Who could do this quality of woodwork without lots of time and patience, to say nothing of the finish. Can this kit be modified for an in/outboard?
We wouldn’t recommend an I/O on the Zip as it would be heavier than we prefer.
hi Gayle,greetings
you sure got my eyes wet with all those wonderfull boats.
As for myself, i`m doing some work on my new 7´ (2,10m) sailing boat, and I´m going to send you all the specifications and photos as soon as possible.
keep on the good work,
bye
carlos
Great to hear Carlos! Enjoy the build.
A little late, but certainly appreciated the “rolled away stone” issue of the newsletter!
A bunch of us got to test our race boats at Lucas Oil Speedway Easter Sunday … after a service commemorating that first light of the Church Age.!
Bless you all.
Dan
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Carpet on the shop floor!
You are still ahead of me. Mine is still upside down. It is interesting to see the subtle differences in construction. I am actually fiberglassing the entire bottom so I have installed fillets and radiused all edges. I am also going to take a higher line on the coamings to give a bit more room under the front deck.
I love the wood look but have my heart set on a Budweiser Griffin paint scheme. I get to see the Bud each Thursday so my anticipation is building.
I am looking forward to your next, and quite possible last, installment. Do the grandkids know about it yet?
Regards, Steve
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Gayle/Ray,
When I saw your boat, I had a feeling I had seen it on the water somewhere. My wife and I spent a night on the Delta Queen in Sept. of 2010. Was that your boat docked directly across the river? Anyway, I like your kind of building methods. Good and practical! Beautiful boat. Thanks for the inspiration and details in your blog.
Glenn Holland
Have built boats since age of 14. Am now 60. Have built two Glen-L boats during those forty-six years. Have a passion for dories/fishing/work boats which began when I first saw a Simmons Sea Skiff at Carolina Beach in the 1960’s. Met and talked with Ted Simmons at his shop in Myrtle Grove, NC. I have always believed Glen-L Marine set a level of excellence in the design world that all others work hard to achieve. The dories in your book of boat designs are really nice. Would like to go out to L.A. and meet all of you and especially Mr. Glen Witt. Maybe someday!
Good to hear from you Mike and thank you for your very nice comments… I hope to meet you soon!
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What a beautiful build!!
did you stretch her out\?
please reply im thinking of this design myself…
thanks!
Doug
Hey Doug, sorry to take so long to reply. No, for this build, there were a number of other things I was focused on so I opted to keep that item standard. Also, this was started for a client (that has since died), that wanted it for a dock maintenance and towing tug. So, agility and stability were paramount. Once built, tested and video documentation is done, it will be sold. The wheel house has been redesigned for a pair of convertible, transverse bunks on the inside aft bulkhead, and no forward trunk. But there is still a generous forward hold under the fore deck, accessed from the wheelhouse. Keep watching.
Wow, what a great job you are doing.I’ve been following your story all winter and wish I had the spare time to simply strip and refinish my 8 foot three point that I picked up free at a barn sale 5 yrs ago!
Thanks in not forgetting to send me your bostbuilders newsletter. I look forward to all of them.
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Thanks Gayle – I like it!
With all the possibilities you have to offer, I didn’t see my boat either. Have my sights set on the tugboat Fred Murphy (with a Titan style wheel house and dry stack). Waiting on our Michigan Spring to break ground on the pole barn then starting the boat this Fall. I imagine we’ll be old friends by the time my tugboat “Charlie” gets to sea trials.
Thanks for doing what you do!
CNM
Blogging – a great idea. Although I may be biased, I’m a Windows .NET programmer during the day so technology is my friend. 🙂
I’m currently building – very slowly – an aluminum 20.5′ Kokanee Sportfisher. It’s a great project but I wish more folks were using aluminun so I could learn from them and see the great workmanship that I’m trying to emulate.
Since August 2011 I have completed the building form and frames 1, 2 and 6. Like I said, slowly building. But it’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon in my mind.
Love the blog idea.
Steve, Glad you like the blog. Have you been on our Forum in the “Metal” section? There is a lot of good information about building boats in aluminum from some very experienced guys. Check it out…
http://www.glen-l.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=4f2b1ad2c6775e21ea0f3a95b476c13c
Great pictures! Great idea adding the labels….however, sometimes they cover the boats. I would suggest next time either eliminating the transparent blue banner and using just the letters, or moving the labels to the top of the picture where they wouldn’t cover the boats we are admiring! Best wishes,
Bill.
Good point Bill!
Well, this is different, Gayle. First, I guess I’m going to have to step it up and build more boats ’cause I did not see my fav in the list. Second, I am afraid Gayle, this is the closest thing you will see, of me “blogging”. I’d much rather be in the shop building! It looks good though. Hope the others like it.
Cheers Mates!
I guess you will have to build more boats, Dan! I’m glad you posted a comment even though you’d rather be building 🙂
I need plane, for buil my boats , 45 ”
Regards
Fernando
Fernando, we have over 300 different boat plans on our website:
Gayle
I too am building a Super Spartan and am at nearly the exact same point as this posting. I notice in one of your pictures that the side planking extended past the transom and that you had a little bottom planking showing past the transom. On mine I noticed the side planking was approximately 1/8 in shy of the transom. I doublechecked the side planking pattern and they were correct. My remedy was to cut back the bottom battens. I’m just wondering if I did something wrong of if this was a plan issue. BTW, no fair using a power planer for fairing! I could only justify purchasing the Rigid sander for the project.
The lake outing sounds like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, the Endeavor will not be completed this year.
BTW: Does the lake have a connecting canal to the ocean?
Too bad Larry! I really don’t know if Nickajack Lake leads to the ocean…
I think I will try and make it this year, it looks like so much fun!
Gayle- You are doing a great job!
Buzz
Glad to hear you like the new design!
It does look like Gayle
Love ya brad
Builder in the corn
Gayle, you still look good, was it cold to pose for those pictures, no probably not Southern Cal. and all….Dwain the Skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG..
Ha ha Dwain–I wasn’t even close to being born when these photos were taken!
The blog format may work out much better and it could encourage debate which would be interesting
It seems to me that I remember those ads appearing in “Mechanix Illustrated” in the 50’s when I was just a boy. Pretty girls were always an attraction of course and I loved the magazine.
Glen-L continues to be the best of boat building sites on the web. Thanks to you and your dad for the memories.
I love the old pictures Gayle. Keep sending them
Jeff
I can remember as a young boy seeing some of those pictures in advertisments. My Father was thinking of building a boat at that time. I had such a crush on that girl…. I was maybe 10 or so…. So wow, now I suddenly have a renewed interest in building boats…. 🙂
This I’d the design I’ve been waiting for! Awesome!
Usually I don’t comment on lines, but her keel and shear lines come together so well that I can’t help but wonder how much PoxyShield was used???
I think all that epoxy is going to your head!
NAH! I was always like this…
Hi Gayle,
(Sorry this is a little long winded but I felt I needed to say it)
Your dad sounds like a very clever and savvy man. I aint no prude and your husband and yourself sound like you both aint either. But I know when my 2 girls were growing up I wouldn’t like to have explained, why the pretty young ladies were on the publicity material. Awkward questions and stuff better avoided.
Change the subject or sidestep the question or answer a question with a question is a good ploy all our Politicians have used in the past and will continue to in the future. These tactics have met with good success for them in there business and a few photos in night clubs with pretty young ladies does the young up and coming politician or businessman no harm at all, so yes your dad was a very clever businessman of his time in the 50’s when I was growing up.
If it was a good enough tactic for Ford, GM and Chrysler to name but a few and it sold cars. Then his attitude of, if it is good enough for them and it sells cars then it’s good enough for me. If I managed to hit my product target market and it put food on the table for my family I think I could stand the flack from a few people and a few of my dealers. Your dad sold a good idea and good product and if it the pretty young lady photo gave him an edge then good, it bought you an extra present at Christmas.
Your edge in this day and age is reaching the maximum number of people with some snazzy pics of beautiful boats in some really beautiful settings and I reckon the internet is your edge and your “pretty young lady”.
As they say in Northern Ireland where I hail from, you are real easy on the eyes as well (as is my gal of 35 years) and your pic on your web site does your web site no harm at all. As I said before the internet is your edge if it wasn’t I wouldn’t be writing this now.
Regards
Geoff Burrows
Thanks for your feedback Geoff–yes, I think my dad’s pretty sharp! Thanks for your kind comments 🙂
Dear Gayle,
Your ongoing GLEN-L work is just amazing and thank you for your efforts. Myself, my friends, and it seems many others, are totally involved in only ELECTRIC boating these days and I would especially like to see your GLEN-L offer something like an efficient picnic-launch hull design for electric power to compete with the likes of… well I image you know expensive who. Given one or two copyrighted designs along these lines, I think you will be well-served and following your dads dream. In any case thank you for your work.
Best wishes,
David Butler
skipper10@comcast.net
David, Glen did several electric designs some years back. We have an electric launch here:
I appreciate your feedback!
At Last!!! I love it!!!
I wonder where those girls are today?
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I sure enjoy your historical postings Gayle. It takes me back to my childhood and the work that my dad and uncles did in their shops. Thank you!
The first pieces of furniture my wife wnd I had were Danish modern a coutch end tables.looked a whole like what are pictured here. That was 49years a go on the 12th of jan.
Jeff
I was looking at your furniture designs and I think that my grandfather or father may have built the coffee table and end tables. The both of them loved to do woodworking and loved boats. My grand father built 2 different Glen l designs in the early 60s. I can,t remember which ones but I am trying to get my 89 yr old mother to go thru all the old pics and see if there are any more pics of the boats and furiture. I sent her a kink to the furniture and she said it sure looks like the one in grandmas house yrs ago. If i get a pic I will send it to you. Thanks and keep up the great work that you people do.
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Gayle
I’m really enjoying your “Glen-L History” feature in your E Mails. It adds the personal touch that is lacking in so many family owned businesses these days.You are doing a great job.It is truly the “American Dream ” to see an American company continue to thrive thanks to the innovative efforts of the Founder’s daughter ! And the thing I love the most is that Glen-l Plans don’t have “Made in China ” stamped on them !
I’m glad you like the history photos–they are a lot of fun to do! I appreciate your kind comments…
In 1960 may dad and the nieghbour across the alley were building a Glen l design . That was in the spring. They desided to make a couple of changes to the plans so they loaded me into the car and we drove all the way to the company from Calgary alberta. It was a long trip but I got to see how the boats were designed and lots of other stuff. They got the changes layed out for them on the plans and they didn’t charge them anything. The boat was built that summer and it was finnaly retired in michigan about 3 yrs ago.I was 6 at the time and it was one trip I will never forget.
What a neat story! I can’t believe your dad drove all the way here for change questions–that’s true dedication to building a boat! Thank you so much for sharing this…
Great story I love the history of you company,I first learned of Glen-L from Noah’s in Toronto Canada.
Kevin
nice boat fellas do you have progress photos as well as im starting my own sweet sixteen soon
Merry Christmas from the Marines and Sailors in Jacksonville, North Carolina!
merry christmas and happy new year from england hope it is a great time for you all
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from the beautiful lakes of the south west corner of Missouri in the Ozarks!!
Thank you for a happy and funny video and merry Christmas from Denmark.
Merry Christmas and Warm Holiday Wishes to the Glen L Crew and all our friends on the Glen L Forum.
Merry Christmas from Belgium to all of you boat builders.
Lots of love to all of you, and the lovely people at Glen-L.
May the scent of wood, varnish and pine tar linger in your nostrils for ever.
Merry christmas to all at glen L from Nova Scotia Canada
Now that’s an Elfin’ Christmas card!!!
merry Christmas to the immediate and extended Glen-L family!!!
I built one of your hot rods back in the sixtys. I put a cadillac engine in it. It was the best boat I ever owned. my kids were teenagers then, we taught every one in the neighborhood how to ski. the boat was super stable, the kids all loved to drive it. It was safe. wish I still had it. unfortunately a telephone pole is stronger than a wood boat. so I don’t have it any more.. bud given
That’s awesome to hear that one of our designs had such a prominent place in your family. Thanks for sharing that. Sounds like you need to build another one…
Too bad I don’t live close by, I would love to work you folks. Think I would feel right at home. Thanks for sharing these photos with us.
Glad you like them!
I like the photos from 1950 compared to today. But I like the photos of Gayle even better!
Awww. I’m blushing 🙂
Gayle, you represent what all of us Pisces water lovers dream of….a gorgeous, friendly lady that loves being on the water and boating.
You are truly a rare item!
That’s very kind, Tommy. Thank you…
Thanks for all the great comments! The new runabout is 19′ 3″. We’ll provide details in an email and/or post soon!
Dear Gayle,
Fantastic photo, It brings back memories from my first designer job in 1983 designing heavy machinery for the steel mills, gearboxes the size of garden sheds for the rollers, 400 ton hydraulic presses also aso. the company was old but well renowned still using drawing tables from the 50/60is. All drawings from 1950 and onwards kept for references. And the directeur/owner: 70 years of age, black suit, white starch shirt, walking pace of a sprinter, last known to smile spring 1974 but no actual witnesses! we all stood to attention behind our desks just in case he would storm in..but he knew his trade for sure
A new runabout! please let it be a “Riva Ariston” I have with your study drawings combined the barrelback19 and the Tahoe 19, and scaled it up to 25 feet, but I’s much rather have a real design
Thanks for the “memory lane kick”
BR
Carl from Sweden
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In the U.S., there is something of a tradition for naming inland waterway vessels after men. Think: Edmund Fitzgerald. Also inland waterways are usually measured in statue miles.
Not all ships are named for women. I believe most Russian vessels are named after men. Possibly other former Eastern bloc countries do as well.
Who needs cad! If it aint mass produced or broke, don’t change nothing
Thanks for the Drafting Room pictures. I am a retired draftsman (petrochemical, mechanical). These pictures sure brought back some memories. I had a 20 year career based on taking two high school courses, a Technical College course and years of self-study. My interest now is in Yacht Design and keeping up with the Glen-L designs, among others. I always look forward to emails from Glen-L.
Bob Sutton
League City, TX
Way too kool! I started drafting when I was in Jr. High in Riverside Ca. 1967. It was called industrial arts! Something that’s has been eliminated from most school curriculum ….very sad! I also started woodworking back then I was not into boats at that time but that experience has led me to a life long association with drafting, design and woodworking. I have been a shipwright since 1992 and currently repair, build, and restore boats. I also build and repair fine furniture. It’s nice to see someplace with such a tradition!!! Keep up the good work.
Keith
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Nice one Jman. Will visit regularly for updates and look forward to the ‘champagne over the bow’ ceremony. Gav.
We look forward to reading about your progress Jon–keep us updated!
Gayle
Art, you have built a BEAUTIFUL boat! Congratulations on joining the “fraternity” of boatbuilders!
Hi;
I built a Glen-L “thunderbolt” way back in 1965, as a first year shop-teacher in Vancouver, B.C. Canada. Although I was more of a car guy, I have had many hours of pleasure building the boat as well as water-skiing behind that boat. About 6 years ago, I carefully loaded it into a 40′ container and shipped it to Thailand, where I have lived for the past 8 years. The boat is sitting on my boat trailer here and am yearning for the day I can launch it again, there are several lakes that are not too far from home. I just wanted to say a big thank you to Glen L. Witt for having the foresight for designing such a great boat.
John–that is so awesome! I’m glad we could be a part of that–thank you so much for taking the time to share your story. Post a photo when you get your boat on the water again!
I am also building a Zip. I have the frames all built and assembled and mounted on the building frame. Have keel installed and chines too. Fairing done on 1 side and plywood fitted. This winter I will finish the other side. It has all been great fun. When doing a boat build keep one thing in mind–when you are done, you will have built something that not many have done when you compare yourself to the number of people that own boats. This is something that we all can be very proud of.
Jeff
Beautiful job and superb craftsmanship! I think that we both bid on that motor on E-Bay and obviously I lost. 🙂
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Great job on your Monte Carlo Dale! Thank you for posting. Did you build the model shown in the first photo?
Great job Tim. Your TNT looks beautiful–thank you so much for the great post!
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I love looking a beautiful old wooden boats, but have no desire to build one and maintain one at this stage of my life. For my next project I am looking to build a high performance boat (say 19′ to 25′, perhaps a true tunnel hull design) that has modern engineering behind it and doesn’t look like a 1950’s boat. There is nothing wrong with the 1950’s look, but there is not the engineering behind those designs that would allow it to be stable at speeds of 70+ MPH. Ideally this new design would be stitch and glue construction. If Glen-L could add this to their catalog, I would buy it.
I enjoy your newletters and reading about other people’s projects. I especially like looking at the pictures of the boats underconstuction and the finished boat.
Thank you,
George Spano
206-718-8857
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Just started my squirt. Hope mine will look as good as yours. The working boat name is MI NAUTI TOY. I’ m a michigan boater Hence the MI. I love that you get a lot of attention. I built a ceader strip canoe and people want stop and look even when its on top the van.
i started out making the the squirt as a jet boat,but the cost was to rich for my blood,but my squirt can fit a 650 kaw,motor,so we redid the transom and put a 7.5 mercon it.the blue cables you see are home made control cables.we couldn’t find any,so we made our own set up,”works great” when we launched it it went right to plane,she felt really solid and stable.it’s a great boat to build,i’m a retired railroader not a carpenter,and we put this together, .moving on to the tug a long.the plans from glen l are great and easy to use, danny zapp
Squirts are a kick. Easy to build. Quick. Great to look at. Fun ride. And a true attention getter.
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Thanks verry much Gayle for the information on the seat arrigiment, thanks again
Love the new format and Gayle is still as gorgeous as ever. Keep on boating and all the best in the future.Don.